PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Wheels, Suspension, Brakes & Tyres questions and answers

Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, Andrew, -alex, miata

User avatar
Garry
Speed Racer
Posts: 3481
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SP
Location: God's Country
Contact:

PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby Garry » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:23 pm

I'm not sure if everyone is aware but Michelin have discontinued the Pilot Preceda (PP)2 range. They have been replaced by the apparently excelent Pilot Sport (PS)3. At this stage however, Michelin doesn't stock a 205/45/16 size in the PS3 or in any of their Australian tyre range.

Due to an altercation with a branch lying on the road on the weekend I needed to get one new PP2 so I have discovered that as at 4:30pm 21st June there are only five 205/45/16 PP2's left in Australia. So if you want a new set of 16" PP2's you had better get in quick.
Shiney black one with added red bits. Member of the fart club. Now with extra doof and Sunlong. - deceased and gone to heaven

SPy vs. SPy
Racing Driver
Posts: 902
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:40 pm
Vehicle: ND - 2
Location: In a fast car, so not an NC.

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby SPy vs. SPy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:30 pm

They should have the 205/50/16 which is technically the wrong size, the last three sets of tyres I have run have all been 205/50/16 with zero problemo's.

Of note several guy run the Kumho KU36 which are (IIRC) 215/50/16 benefits:- super gooey and more than a steal @$137 each

Down sides, and these are one persons reports from a brief two minute discussion today:
not as good in the wet as PP2's, unsurprising really given the near R Spec pattern of the KU36
and
tyre life is about 1/2 depending on the punishment meted out to them.

Upsides
Stupendousely Gooey
price is unbeatable, near R Spec performance at 1/3 the price.

btw Julio from "Jules & Mummy dot com" has the PS3's on Malibu and he swears they are the ducks nuts.
Went for a drive and there were slow cars everywhere, why are NC's so common . . . must be NC = Normally Cardiganed.

NMX516
Speed Racer
Posts: 2057
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:05 pm
Vehicle: NB SP
Location: Brisbane

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby NMX516 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:57 pm

I'm looking forward to trying the PS3's, but looks like I might have to make the PP2's last a bit longer until we get 205/45/16's available here. They are listed on the UK website for example, so it is a size they make. I guess we just have to hope that the Aus distributors see the need for them...
Pain is temporary, quitting lasts forever.

User avatar
jules
Guitar Hero
Posts: 3562
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Sydney, previously HQ - GC Dodgy Inc.
Contact:

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby jules » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:11 am

I never tried the PP2's, but I am stupidly impressed with the road holding (wet or dry) of the PS3's after 1000kms. Lack of "future" availability made the final decision, as I did had the option of either tyre.

Jules
Founder of the Gold Coast Chapter of the Honourable Brothers of Dodgy.
Image

SPy vs. SPy
Racing Driver
Posts: 902
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:40 pm
Vehicle: ND - 2
Location: In a fast car, so not an NC.

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby SPy vs. SPy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:02 am

We anxiously await the PS3 vs RE001 debate.
Went for a drive and there were slow cars everywhere, why are NC's so common . . . must be NC = Normally Cardiganed.

NMX516
Speed Racer
Posts: 2057
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:05 pm
Vehicle: NB SP
Location: Brisbane

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby NMX516 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:48 pm

SPy vs. SPy wrote:We anxiously await the PS3 vs RE001 debate.


That should be a short one... :roll:
Pain is temporary, quitting lasts forever.

User avatar
Garry
Speed Racer
Posts: 3481
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SP
Location: God's Country
Contact:

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby Garry » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:51 pm

Wet weather braking tests show the PS3 stopping around 4m shorter from 80km/h than the RE001
Shiney black one with added red bits. Member of the fart club. Now with extra doof and Sunlong. - deceased and gone to heaven

SPy vs. SPy
Racing Driver
Posts: 902
Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:40 pm
Vehicle: ND - 2
Location: In a fast car, so not an NC.

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby SPy vs. SPy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:00 pm

Garry wrote:Wet weather braking tests show the PS3 stopping around 4m shorter from 80km/h than the RE001



Yes but you will find that those were the Azerbaijani sourced RE001s, the Slovenian ones were measured at 3.8 metres . . . . longer again :shock:
Went for a drive and there were slow cars everywhere, why are NC's so common . . . must be NC = Normally Cardiganed.

Crapweasel
Racing Driver
Posts: 1198
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:35 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby Crapweasel » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:27 pm

Great news, but anybody have information concerning 215/40/17 for an SE? (205 is stock, but 215 is ok on the 7" rim)

Price wise, I'm leaning towards the BF Goodrich G Force Profilers for $199 per corner fitted (incl GST) as they present pretty good value for the money - and another member with a turbo MX on here is running the G Force Sport for less money, with no problems.

But having said that, I'm open to other opinions, as I'm running Nexen N6000 at the moment, with a 300 treadwear, so they'll last fine, but they're average in the wet and dry! (They came with the car :? )
NA6 - The Slow And The Curious... Roundabout Drift

User avatar
jules
Guitar Hero
Posts: 3562
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Sydney, previously HQ - GC Dodgy Inc.
Contact:

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby jules » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:19 pm

BTW if you are in Qld and want some great service and even better price on a set of PS3's, go talk to the guys at Bob Jane Nerang.
They managed to get me into a set of 195/50/15 fitted, balanced and aligned to Lanny's specs for $800.00 all up.

I've been going to them for a few years now, and they have always been excellent. The aligner even came out to have a quick chat with me when he saw the requested camber :mrgreen:

Jules
Founder of the Gold Coast Chapter of the Honourable Brothers of Dodgy.
Image

User avatar
Guran
Speed Racer
Posts: 3754
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:42 pm
Vehicle: ND - 1.5
Location: Albion Park NSW
Contact:

Re: PP2 Lovers Community Service Anouncement

Postby Guran » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:34 pm

Out of interest, what is the treadwear rating of PS3s that are being sold here? I checked tirerack, and they only have PS3s in a very limited size range (18" and 19" for Mercedes & Audi vehicles), and they come with a 320 AA A UTQG rating. Same here?

Michelin Pilot Sport 3 at Tire Rack (320 AA A)
Image

Michelin Pilot Sport 3 at Michelin.com.au
Image
Standard 2006 NC - YouTube
WP 1:11.89 | SMP-S 1:05.90 GP 1:54.93 N 1:18.09 L 2:22.49 | PW 1:02.52
PI 2:00.55 | W-S 1:12.44 W-L 1:43.36 | SR 1:33.25


Return to “MX5 Wheels, Suspension, Brakes & Tyres”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 350 guests