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Postby Bauer » Sat May 15, 2010 12:35 am

just looking at BC's I notice there are 2 types. The V1 and the BR.

any reason to pay $100 more for the BR series? I notice Mania only list the V1's??
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Postby tuned_to_fly » Sat May 15, 2010 1:26 pm

Bauer wrote:just looking at BC's I notice there are 2 types. The V1 and the BR.

any reason to pay $100 more for the BR series? I notice Mania only list the V1's??


The BR have a few extra track orientated features such as a slightly larger diameter housing, however spring rates remain the same. It's weird as the BC website doesn't have any mention of the V1, only the BR and above models.

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Postby Wivvix » Sat May 15, 2010 4:45 pm

I read from a few user reviews that the BR's had improved valving. It might have been on miata.net.

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Postby Keith » Sat May 29, 2010 6:41 am

if you import them, remember to allow for customs duty plus gst if their total value is over $1000. I got stung bigtime a couple of years ago.
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Postby Bauer » Sat May 29, 2010 12:08 pm

tuned_to_fly wrote:
Bauer wrote:just looking at BC's I notice there are 2 types. The V1 and the BR.

any reason to pay $100 more for the BR series? I notice Mania only list the V1's??


The BR have a few extra track orientated features such as a slightly larger diameter housing, however spring rates remain the same. It's weird as the BC website doesn't have any mention of the V1, only the BR and above models.


I wonder if production of the V1 has ended and they are only doing BR's now??

I will be looking to snag some in the next month or so. Anyone looking for some would do well to wait until I make the purchase cos anything I buy is usually on special the week after :roll:
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Postby Wivvix » Sun May 30, 2010 4:48 am

Bauer wrote:I wonder if production of the V1 has ended and they are only doing BR's now??

I will be looking to snag some in the next month or so. Anyone looking for some would do well to wait until I make the purchase cos anything I buy is usually on special the week after :roll:

They no longer produce the V1 series. The BR series superceded the V1. They make three kits now; BR, ER (external reservoir) and RM (inverted).

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Postby Guran » Sun May 30, 2010 12:35 pm

I've no affiliation with the following, just a passing on some information that might be of use to those reading this thread.

At the last Supersprint round, a bloke from Suspension Technology Australia was doing the round handing out brochures. Apparently they are based in Yass and supply JRZ high performance dampers. They are available in four different set-ups:

1) Single adjustable: rebound only
2) Double adjustable: rebound and compression, independently
3) Triple adjustable: rebound, high speed blow off compression, low speed compression bleed
4) Quadruple adjustable: high speed rebound blow off, low speed rebound bleed, high speed blow off compression, low speed compression bleed

The bloke also is available to help out with tuning the dampers to suit track conditions, teaching you how to do it yourself. He charges (from memory) $800 for a full day at the track, and this can be split amongst several people to keep the individual costs down. Sounds like an excellent service.
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Postby mx52nv » Sun May 30, 2010 6:01 pm

Wivvix wrote:Primarily I want height adjustment so I can find the compromise between suspension travel and aesthetics that is appropriate for our roads.
13 to 13.5" is probably what I will start out with, but may drop to 12.75'ish.

I'm fairly new to suspension, so maybe someone else can help me out here.
To the OP,
The fact is that you do not need to find a compromise for your purposes and our roads. Some WA members have been doing just this for over 20 years. :mrgreen:

So here is my humble opinion from an earlier thread:
mx52nv wrote:Subjective as this thread is, I have fitted so many different set-ups to MX5s over the last decade that I will contribute my say.

Categorised in three price ranges.

1) Best 'off the shelf' MX5 suspension I have ever fitted was a set of OHLINS DFV.
Cost: $3,000-$3,500
Rated: 10/10 for both street and track.
Ignore all the BS you hear about having to rebuild them often and get a set if you can afford it.
*PSS9 and TEIN MONOFLEX rates a mention in this price range but I preferred the OHLINS on the limit to the PSS9 and the OHLINS were more livable then the MONOFLEX on a daily basis due to spring rates.

2) TEIN FLEX in the $2,000-$3,000 price range.
Cost: $2750 or so
Rated: 8/10 with more emphasis on track then the street

3) Koni Adjustable Yellow Sport shocks with Eibach Pro-Kit Springs
Cost: $1500 or less
Rated: 7/10 with better compliance on the street than Kings but still very capable on the track.

Other components like SuperPro bushes, Whiteline Adjustable Anti-sway bars & End Links, Roll bars, etc all contribute to the added handling capabilities of the MX5 but for complete coilover suspension replacements, these are my humble recommendations barring any other parts. And I have tried pretty much everything. :mrgreen:

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Postby Bauer » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:00 pm

Yellow Racing Coilover Kit MX-5 89-05 NA NB

anyone ever heard of them?

Can I make a safe assumption that Mania would not sell a sh*t product for the sake of cheapness?
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Postby Dweezle » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:52 pm

Bauer wrote:Yellow Racing Coilover Kit MX-5 89-05 NA NB

anyone ever heard of them?

Can I make a safe assumption that Mania would not sell a sh*t product for the sake of cheapness?



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?????
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Postby greenMachine » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:17 pm

mx52nv wrote:To the OP,
The fact is that you do not need to find a compromise for your purposes and our roads. Some WA members have been doing just this for over 20 years. :mrgreen:

So here is my humble opinion from an earlier thread:
mx52nv wrote:Subjective as this thread is, I have fitted so many different set-ups to MX5s over the last decade that I will contribute my say.

Categorised in three price ranges.

1) Best 'off the shelf' MX5 suspension I have ever fitted was a set of OHLINS DFV.
Cost: $3,000-$3,500
Rated: 10/10 for both street and track.
Ignore all the BS you hear about having to rebuild them often and get a set if you can afford it.
*PSS9 and TEIN MONOFLEX rates a mention in this price range but I preferred the OHLINS on the limit to the PSS9 and the OHLINS were more livable then the MONOFLEX on a daily basis due to spring rates.

2) TEIN FLEX in the $2,000-$3,000 price range.
Cost: $2750 or so
Rated: 8/10 with more emphasis on track then the street

3) Koni Adjustable Yellow Sport shocks with Eibach Pro-Kit Springs
Cost: $1500 or less
Rated: 7/10 with better compliance on the street than Kings but still very capable on the track.

Other components like SuperPro bushes, Whiteline Adjustable Anti-sway bars & End Links, Roll bars, etc all contribute to the added handling capabilities of the MX5 but for complete coilover suspension replacements, these are my humble recommendations barring any other parts. And I have tried pretty much everything. :mrgreen:

Regards,
Les @ MX5 Shop


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Postby Bauer » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:18 pm

Dweezle wrote:
Bauer wrote:Yellow Racing Coilover Kit MX-5 89-05 NA NB

anyone ever heard of them?

Can I make a safe assumption that Mania would not sell a sh*t product for the sake of cheapness?



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?????


was the hmmmmmm meant to be a word of warning? :wink:

I cant find any info on the brand so Im hesitant but if Mania are saying they are the go and will stand by the product, Im might be tempted to be the guinea pig :D
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Postby Wivvix » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:13 am

Bauer wrote:
Dweezle wrote:
Bauer wrote:Yellow Racing Coilover Kit MX-5 89-05 NA NB

anyone ever heard of them?

Can I make a safe assumption that Mania would not sell a sh*t product for the sake of cheapness?



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?????


was the hmmmmmm meant to be a word of warning? :wink:

I cant find any info on the brand so Im hesitant but if Mania are saying they are the go and will stand by the product, Im might be tempted to be the guinea pig :D


I contacted Yellow Speed Racing since finding the Mania ebay listing.
I should have shock dyno graphs from Yellow Speed Racing for their NA and NB kit within a few days, which I will then post in a new thread for discussion.

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Postby MoodyBlue » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:40 pm

Any one purchased the "Raceland" adjustable coil units from Germany?

I just got a set for my NA (Daily Driver). I do longer country mileage to work (54 k each way and two sets of traffic lights). I do have some very much fun curvy sections on the trip.

Cost shipped to Melb was a little under $400, so at $100 per corner seems too good to be true.

My Thoughts: Even if they turn out to be crap, they can't be much worse than the original units that most likely have done 180,000k and never been touched.

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Postby Wivvix » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:47 pm

Considering what they cost i've heard pretty reasonable things about the ricelands.
They're definitely not made in Germany though, and if you read the warranty carefully they claim to be for track use only.

My research tells me that $200-$400 is the freight price range on 4 shocks/coilovers from the US.
I'm not in any hurry to purchase something, so i'm going to wait until there have been user reviews of the FM Vmaxx.
They seem like the most cost-effective and reasonable quality, no fuss solution available.


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