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Michellin PP2 now too expensive

Postby Quicksilver » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:37 pm

Anyone bought 205/45/16 tyres lately? I need to replace the G'year F1 GS-D3s after only 20,000km and have been quoted $280-$290 for Michelin PP2s. Much as I like the PP2s, I cant see paying that price (esp when Jax advertise 205/55/16 at $219 but cant do the 45 ratio at that price) :cry:

Anyone recommend good road (not track) tyres closer to the $200 mark? Any Yokos?

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Postby AJ » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:44 pm

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Postby SPy vs. SPy » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:20 pm

Paid for a set in January they were around $260 then, I think that was an increase of about $10-15 over the set I got in April 2006 which lasted 40,000 Kms and nearly three years.

As long as they keep making them, I'll keep buying them.

Other people like the Toyo Proxes TR-1 but these are a softer tyre

Others like the RE001 which is a topic of much debate here

then there's the GS-D3s which you already have and you know how they perform :shock:

then there's a cavern back to things like Maxxis which no-one talks about on here, then we're pretty much out of options.

Not many cars eat 205/45/16 tyres, ergo they're more expensive than other sized tyres of the same brand.

You may be better off getting a set of original 15" rims and getting some 15" tyres, there will be a whole world of choice and better prices in that size.


and ditto to AJ's remark, and adequately demonstrated last Saturday.
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Postby NMX516 » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:48 pm

I have a set of NB8A rims for sale if you're interested... They will get you into the 195/50/15 tyre market, and will be much lighter than the wheels you've got now.

In Feb I paid $275 each for 205/45/16 PP2's.
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Postby SPy vs. SPy » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:49 pm

You may also wish to check out the Kumho KU36, these can be had for very nice money but are a bit off in size 215/45/16 from memory which are perfectly OK

they are discussed somewhere in here I believe http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=24296

Expect them to stick like glue, can't comment on longevity.
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Postby Alex » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:57 am

While we are at it I've been looking around for 195/50/15 PP2's around northern sydney and prices are around $185 but most places are trying to talk me out of them saying there is always _____ which is better and cheaper.

Anyone found better prices for PP2's in 195/50/15 in the sydney area? (not interested in RE001's the whole Japanese vs Australian made thing has put me off)
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Postby Old Dude » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:02 am

Try Jax at southport, they did the 205/45x16 PP2 for me for $250 each, and I just bought some Continental premium contact 2 tyres yesterday for my X trail from them for $250 each and everywhere else was quoting me $320
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Postby project.r.racing » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:00 am

KU36 wouldn't suit a daily drivers. Kumho KU31 is much better suited to being on a daily.

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Postby Caffeine » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:18 pm

The RE001 in 205/45-16 (japanese made) are awesome

People seem to have had some problems with the Australian made RE001 in 15in sizes, but the 16in ones have been outstanding for me.
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Postby SPy vs. SPy » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:27 pm

This reply should have been in this thread

http://www.option1garage.com.au/NewTyres.htm

:shock: that's some good prices
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Postby de Bounce » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:02 pm

Caffeine wrote:The RE001 in 205/45-16 (japanese made) are awesome

People seem to have had some problems with the Australian made RE001 in 15in sizes, but the 16in ones have been outstanding for me.

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Postby Quicksilver » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:14 pm

Thanks for all your responces. I have had two suggested from the tyre shops:

Maxxis I-Pro, new tyre with very good reviews. Havent heard of any on MX5s though and not convinced on Maxxis as a brand.

Goodrich G-Force Sport. These are apparently very good quality, Goodrich a division of Michelin, at a much lower price ($100 less per tyre). I know a few people on this forum have these tyres - thumbs up or thumbs down?

If not I will probably bite the bullet and take the best advice to buy the PP2s, but jeez the dollars really hurt :frown:
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Postby Garry » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:17 pm

I paid $260 each for my PP2's about six weeks ago which was a substantial jump in price from the previous set.
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Postby MINX » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:24 am

BFG GForce Sport are quite an acceptable tyre.
They are NOT PP2s, but...
215/40/17 1 year, 22,000kms, 3 track days and 1 skid pan, with some 'spirited' driving 'occasionally' :P .

They still have plenty of legal life left in them now.
Dry grip-Good
Wet Grip-Good
Noise-Good
Wear rate-Good
Value for $-Good

For a street car with normal sensible driving, they are perfectly adequate and will not disappoint.
If you drive to find the limits, then PP2s will offer better performance all round.

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It will be a difficult decision for me next year whether to replace with same, or go PP2s.
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