13b renesis conversions available soon

[284GCZ]

I wish he'd do a V8 conversion!

I can pop as much corn as I like in my microwave...............................

haha ^^NEVER BEEN IN A ROTOR^^ matey you really should, just on a spare weekend, sit in for a test drive in an old 10k fc rx7 thats has ecu/fuel system/big turbo.
you would sh*t in your pants trust me-

noting pulls like a big turbo rotary- they sh*t on EVERYTHING .. i remember pulling 180 in third @7000 with 3000rpm to go- then another two gears..
you must not diss the rotary until you have tried it- once you do you will respect them- rant over-lol

[bjones]

20k on top of an NA6 price

Some peope here have trouble trying to justify selling their NB for $30k!
(Note - I have no association with this speedshop)

Geez the comedians are out west!

I agree that $20K sounds steep but if its sorted and engineered why not pay for it, sh*t youll save on headaches, agony , tears, dummy spits, wanting to choke the living crap out of some engineers and rta inspectors, Ive been there....... someone else has done all the hard work, had to prove it , put up with the RTA and engineering BS , you walk in and drive out a rocket...ok there not turboed, but serious engine , I wouldnt have one but hey they're not my cup of tea and there not a 4 seater. Besides Ive Owned one , Drove it, reworked it , turboed it , now forget it I dont like rotaries but thats my choice.

Gee I wonder who else has done that, you know all the work deal with the dyno, the rta emissions testing, the engineering the so on and on and on and has there car up forsale at $30k just because there son is more important to them now then a car see some of us mature the others just bag them.

Good luck to your mates endevours..

BJ

[bjones]

I wish he'd do a V8 conversion!

I can pop as much corn as I like in my microwave...............................

haha ^^NEVER BEEN IN A ROTOR^^ matey you really should, just on a spare weekend, sit in for a test drive in an old 10k fc rx7 thats has ecu/fuel system/big turbo.
you would sh*t in your pants trust me-

noting pulls like a big turbo rotary- they sh*t on EVERYTHING .. i remember pulling 180 in third @7000 with 3000rpm to go- then another two gears..
you must not diss the rotary until you have tried it- once you do you will respect them forever- rant over-lol

Mate you really should get to know Benny before saying that, he has most probably owned a fair few cars that have had rotors in them, I know for a fact he has cars that will blow there doors off.

BJ

[284GCZ]

+1 ....20k is very reasonable-

[Blue94t]

Have acsess to an Rx8 for daily use and it is very quick. This is a standard car with full interior, boot full of junk, and standard airbox and exhaust..

RX8 isn't very quick in standard form.

[Duj]

around 20 give or take for NA model- this would include nb lsd rear end, nb brakes and gearbox too.

Conversion is based on custom fabricated subframe, gearbox modification to accept output shaft from rotary

considering what i've seen older members spending on 1.8 long motor builds- like 6k just on the block, this seems a bargain really.

P.S. i also doubt that an offer of subframe/mounts only will ever be made available- more interested in turn key conversions opposed to back yard ones, or someone taking the kit to someone else to be fitted, then taking credit for his months of design work..

So the Rx8 6speed is not part of the deal?
Will he just slap on an Rx7 bellhousing?

Renesis Injection manifolds are quite tall also, Im dying to see some pics!

I live in SA so Id be interested in purchasing a subframe, he could give me a sticker Il put it on my car...

[Benny]

I wish he'd do a V8 conversion!

I can pop as much corn as I like in my microwave...............................

haha ^^NEVER BEEN IN A ROTOR^^ matey you really should, just on a spare weekend, sit in for a test drive in an old 10k fc rx7 thats has ecu/fuel system/big turbo.
you would sh*t in your pants trust me-

noting pulls like a big turbo rotary- they sh*t on EVERYTHING .. i remember pulling 180 in third @7000 with 3000rpm to go- then another two gears..
you must not diss the rotary until you have tried it- once you do you will respect them- rant over-lol

From the few rotaries that I've dríven, they seem to lack low down torque - and torque is good to have for street driving, and they sound like a whole hive of bees on ice!
Sure, they might do the 1/4 mile in 8 seconds, but I like something that is easy to drive on the street, and something I don't need to ring its neck to get some good acceleration.

[nfs13b]

20k... is that with a huffer on the side?

TURBO 13b is un-engineerable.. although very easy to turbo once conversion is done- trouble if you are caught i'd say.
renesis torque curve is very linear- so would be perfect for the track-

Thats not true, mine was engineered.....

[RG.net]

20k... is that with a huffer on the side?

TURBO 13b is un-engineerable.. although very easy to turbo once conversion is done- trouble if you are caught i'd say.
renesis torque curve is very linear- so would be perfect for the track-

Thats not true, mine was engineered.....

I dont think he is in NSW though, and the new rules/setup, it means that only the 12AT is engineerable in an NA in NSW. Though a 13BT can be engineered in an NB.

[mx52nv]

TURBO 13b is un-engineerable.. although very easy to turbo once conversion is done- trouble if you are caught i'd say.
renesis torque curve is very linear- so would be perfect for the track-

From here -> clicky.

According to the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP) from the Department of Infrastructure and Transport, Section LA Engines, Code LA2 (Performance Engines), Pg 18/LA31:



Which would make a NA6 at 977kg Tare (stated on registration paper) x 4.0 = 3,908cc (max engine capacity).
However, if a NB8 is heavier at approximately 1000 to 1100 (best guess) x 5.0 = 5,000 to 5,500 cc (max engine capacity).

So the smallest LS1 is 5,700cc ...

But for a turbo motor for a NA6 then its 977 x 2.75 = 2,686.75 cc and the 13B Turbo is considered as 2,616cc?
So 13B Turbo is a go! Wait...did I do that right?

Les

[284GCZ]

Thats not true, mine was engineered.....

I dont think he is in NSW though, and the new rules/setup, it means that only the 12AT is engineerable in an NA in NSW. Though a 13BT can be engineered in an NB.

not in qld for sure i think minimum for 13b turbo is 1280kg or close to that..
here you cant engineer a series 1/2/3 rx7 with turbo 13b and they weigh more than an nb i'm pretty sure..

went to the shop today.. tony's using a series 4 nonturbo box, modified using some 12a turbo rx7 gbox parts..

nb gearbox is option..
rx8 gearbox is a hard fit, and shifter position would be shitty
above boxes require massaging of tunnel to accomodate, along with seriously custom extractors(removeable flanges on 1 primary pipe to allow gearbox fitment)

he's about to start wiring up a motec to run his personal setup.. custom extension pipe onto nb radiator is being done.. he is keeping a/c, flybywire throttle body(i think only motec supports this- cable throttle is option but would be custom job, like sr20 throttle body made to fit..)
he has ditched power steering, but it could have stayed.. he just prefers this..

motor sits low in the bay in custom subframe to accomodate it's tall stature..

remember anything can be custom as long as he gets the time and $$$ from a client- camera wasnt charged up no pics today sorry. next week i'll be there for some front end work on my touge car, will take some pics then i hope--

don't really care for smart ass comments from middle age men growing breasts- rotary conversion may not be everyone's cup of tea so if you don't have a genuine comment or query don't hit the link to this topic- Thanks Luke


BLUE94T-rx8 is quick for a stock car- as long as you have the co-ordination/concentration to keep it in the 6-9k powerband through twistys.. don't care what you say- they're a quick STANDARD car.

BJONES- sorry but I don't know many forum members. i do know that most of them are 40 plus and mature enough to answer comments directed at them on their own - sorry to upset you. Hearing rotories being canned by strangers shits me- 99% of the time they have never been in one- in this instance i was wrong-accepted- lets all move on shall we gentlemen

[mx52nv]

Hope I am not sidetracking the thread as I am still talking about rotaries =)

284GCZ,
Firstly, I think that you have misquoted me above. I believe MXHEVN actually made the statement that you attributed to me.

Secondly, my information is based on the National Code which is Australia wide. However, are you saying that the Queensland Transport Department has a different set of engine capacity limits not based on the National Code? This surely must make W.A. residents pretty lucky as I am sure the WA Transport Department still follows the engine capacity limits I put up.

If the rules change from state to state, then can someone tell me why is there a National Code in the first place?

Then again, I constantly see 'P-platers' over here in their EVOs/STis/GTRs and I just can't stop shaking my head. I actually think the restrictions over East on new drivers are a good thing.
All my silly personal opinions of course...

And finally, I think Danny's supercharged Renesis powered NC will dominate all!
Les

[rjastra2]

[quote="mx52nv
So the smallest LS1 is 5,700cc ...

:

Les[/quote]

Actually GM make a 5.3L version. 230kw

[mr_rotary]

*sigh* Why use a boat anchor LS1 V8 when you can use a Lexus V8, 4.0L with 208kw with loads more potential. Keep all the V8 talk in this post:
http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=38326&start=15

Back on topic.....

Interested to see some pics of this conversion

[zoomzoom]

Queensland still hasn't adopted the NCOP.