Wazman's NB8a

[RG.net]

do not use tie rod spacers, if you collect something mid drift, the whole assembly will fall apart. (out comes the tie rod)

Get some secret element tie rod ends/or modify your knucles.

We talking mx5s only or in general?

i been using spacers for over 2 years now... not a single problem... all of the boys had no issues either.

MX5's, the thread on the tie rod is too short with a spacer, basically if you hit something, it will pop out of place, and you will be in a whole lot of trouble.

[CoffeeBoss]

Went to haunted hills climb track on the weekend, lots of fun that track!

That place looks amazing, any pics of your outing there?

Is it as MX5 compatible as it looks?

Did they run it as a straight hillclimb or as a circuit?

[devolutio]

i'm booked in for the 28th of november.

heres a vid of dwayne who was at the last one with was convinving his 200sx to get around the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMHNmJPNVhY

[wazman]

Haunted hill's was made for mx5's ........ Dont go to any other track until you go there! its tight, blind, has one 50m straight and takes huge balls to go full throttle through the first corner! loved it.

S13's have stuff thread going back into the rack when you use spacers....... I've have yet to hear of any stearing arm's coming out.

I bought a set of "GK Tech" nissan s13 rack spacers and they fit the mx5 rack perfect....... so quick to install i didn't get time to take a pic sorry.......i figured for $12 it dont really matter if they dont fit.......

After a couple of embarrassing spins at haunted hills whilst trying to link the tight off camber bottom section..... Its Knucle time

- START EDIT OKIBI ->Before reading this post please read the disclaimer at the bottom of the forum pages.
I have intentionally left this post because the discussion resulting from this post is very informative and helps educate forum members regarding the associated dangers of vehicle modification.
We’re blessed to have several forum members with an engineering background and I appreciate the time and effort they take to explain the risks involved in vehicle modification.
I understand there are potentially other instances dangerous modification discussed on the forum and I don’t wish to single out Wazman, we all need to understand the risks involved in modification, not just for the owner/driver but also to the general public. Please stay safe. <- END EDIT OKIBI -

Standard trailing wheel


After knuckle modification, Trailing wheel.


Step one..... take an angle grinder to your knuckle


Step two....check clearances, shorten knuckle arm, then get someone that can weld cast iron to weld your sh*t back together


Always remembering safety first when welding.....T-shirt, shorts and molten metal directly above your face !!!







The back edge of my tire now hits the lower control arm at lock......


There's a little more to it than that.....
If you want to do some tight turns to get that tight parking spot.....
If you do motor khana, then this mod might be beneficial to you.
If you are interested in getting your knuckles chopped or would like to buy a set PM me.

[wazman]

For those of you interested in seeing how the front wheels are rubbing.........

A quick shot of the inside top of my front passenger guard


and just because i love the fitment when its on the jack at the front


Cash flow is the main reason for the holdup on the turbo kit...... and the massive amount of time that my house mate needs to sit still long enough to do it.

[orx626]

Step two....check clearances, shorten knuckle arm, then get someone that can weld cast iron to weld your sh*t back together

If you are interested in getting your knuckles chopped or would like to buy a set PM me.

Seriously Wazman, I hope you have professional indemnity and product liability insurance cover....but then again, even that wouldn't protect you in this instance! Life's too short for this sh*t. You and your boilermaker/welder mate are leaving yourselves wide open here!!! Are you sure the uprights are cast iron???? They're forged steel!!! Hope you didn't use welding rods for cast iron!!!

[mx52nv]

wazman,
Danny has already said most of what was my initial reaction.

I seriously hope that you think carefully about advertising this both visually and physically (as a service) on the Internet.
Les

[wazman]

lol yeah, I just sorta slapped that post up....... i'm a wood machinest so I got no idea what there made from hence i state "there's more to it than that". You can see its TIG work.

and i guess like the little sticker says on my wheels........ for track use only as if.....

My house mate has been doing knuckles for over a year now and has not had one break yet (touch wood!)

[Mokesta]

lol ... as if..... My house mate has been doing knuckles for over a year now and has not had one break yet (touch wood!)

That's the thing, they won't break straight away and may last well more than a year. They may last several owners... You never really know who you are going to kill with this sort of back yard butchery.

Having a welding ticket does not qualify you for this stuff. Hell, I've got TAFE certs in welding and a degree and am registered as a professional engineer and I wouldn't even consider this. I know one bloke who has cut & welded uprights and he did the full material tests, got the right rods, gor the right gas, got the right pre-heat and still I'm not comfortable with it. Your mate is just belting it together like it's mild steel.

Again, you could kill someone with this, and it may be the person you crash into, not just yourself.

So all this just shows you don't know what you don't know.

M

[orx626]

hence i state "there's more to it than that".

You're not wrong there! This sort of modification falls under section LS of the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicles, specifically Code LS3 -Design. http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP11_Section_LS_Suspension_and_steering_3Feb2006.pdf

Here's a key section from it....

Modified Components

Where modification of steering components cannot be avoided, the operations employed should be determined and controlled such that the final properties can be predicted and verified on an individual components basis by a NATA approved materials laboratory, using relevant Australian or International Standards as a reference. The following post process testing by the laboratory is a minimum for such components:

* Welded parts should have the weld material identified, a hardness test traversing across the weld area including the heat affected zone, an X-Ray inspection and a statement of weld integrity;

* Heated parts should be stress relieved, heat treated to a defined specification and undergo non-destructive testing such as magnetic particle or ultrasonic................

There are also prescriptive performance requirements (load cases) whereby the modified components must demonstrate satisfactory stress levels.

My house mate has been doing knuckles for over a year now and has not had one break yet (touch wood!)

The fact that none have failed to date (that you are aware of), won't have any value in a court of law if documented proof cannot be provided that this modification was performed in accordance with the NCOP.

[wazman]

The more degree's you have the less tools you should touch.



Well you guys make sure you dont ride in any elevators !! because you never know who built them.....your best bet is to take the stairs, much safer. Maybe just stay in bed in the morning in case something bad happens to you if you leave the house.

Geez whats with the hate...... mr negativity is in the house.

As if i'd sell the car with them on! hell no i'll pull em off and sell em to someone that has balls.

Seriously though......anyone thats ever died from drift knuckles breaking please put your hand up.......

Ok i'm done....... hang on one more......you guys remind me of something.....



now i'm done..... Thanks for caring

[orx626]

Thanks for caring

At least you understood one thing!

We hope that we never get the opportunity to say..."We told you so!" Best of luck!

[dorifta]

lol warwick, why do you bother with a disclaimer.. just put up a link to the national heart attack info line

[wazman]

and onwards with the dangerous modifying ..........pffft !

Manifold is coming along......








I got the adaptronic tuned. NA just so there are less things to worry about after i bolt the turbo on, it will just need re tune. It made 70 kw stock and 77kw after the adaptronic got tuned.

[dorifta]

Step two....check clearances, shorten knuckle arm, then get someone that can weld cast iron to weld your sh*t back together

If you are interested in getting your knuckles chopped or would like to buy a set PM me.

Seriously Wazman, I hope you have professional indemnity and product liability insurance cover....but then again, even that wouldn't protect you in this instance! Life's too short for this sh*t. You and your boilermaker/welder mate are leaving yourselves wide open here!!! Are you sure the uprights are cast iron???? They're forged steel!!! Hope you didn't use welding rods for cast iron!!!

Wazzman i see ur modified knuckle n i raise u nigels modded control arm