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Postby Benny » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:26 pm

Boy Racer is an expert at doing these conversions, and he often has set-ups for sale.

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Postby Garry » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:51 pm

It's a relatively simple process with no need to remove the engine. Probably the hardest part is splitting the tie rod ball joints.
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Postby Matty » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:17 pm

Garry wrote:It's a relatively simple process with no need to remove the engine. Probably the hardest part is splitting the tie rod ball joints.

and that is a very easy job, just pop the cones out with a hammer.

I did a PS retrofit in my driveway. My writeup is in the miata.net Garage.

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Postby Matty » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:19 am

$400 from Mania a few years ago...

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Postby lightyear » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:04 am

You can buy mine for $100 complete. I took it out as it added too much weight to the car. And i noticed no difference to the effort without power steering. Except at stand still. I went on the track at sandown for the first time without p/s and was a bit carefull, but after half a lap i forgot all about it and didn't even feel any difference. So why would you go to the effort??
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Postby rascal » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:17 am

lightyear wrote:You can buy mine for $100 complete. I took it out as it added too much weight to the car. And i noticed no difference to the effort without power steering. Except at stand still. I went on the track at sandown for the first time without p/s and was a bit carefull, but after half a lap i forgot all about it and didn't even feel any difference. So why would you go to the effort??


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Postby bruce » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:41 am

Yup, power steering is only useful/noticeable at standstill or very low speeds. Great if you need to park a lot. But then the 5 is not a heavy car, so a little muscle at low speeds is not that difficult.

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Postby Garry » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:09 am

The MX5 I drove without power steering noticably loaded up mid corner, especially if you hit a bump mid corner. The steering weight is much more consistant with power steering.
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Postby 93_Clubman » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:36 pm

TheShiz2009 wrote:does anyone think putting power steering in it ruins the experience of the mx5? i know some purists prefer it without. :? bit divided on the situation, discuss lads

From memory Boyracer added power steering to at least a couple of his NAs & loved it. Likewise a few other forumites have commented they wouldn't drive an MX5 without it. I think it's a personal preference thing, but realise given your location it might not be easy for you to test drive a power steered NA6.

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Postby Matty » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:15 am

Garry wrote:The MX5 I drove without power steering noticably loaded up mid corner, especially if you hit a bump mid corner. The steering weight is much more consistant with power steering.

QFT. The unassisted steering also "falls over" at full lock. Too much load at full cornering force, less direct ratio, nonlinear force buildup, no more real feel, insufficient development time by the factory... It's not good.

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Postby Fatty » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:53 am

Matty wrote:
Garry wrote:The MX5 I drove without power steering noticably loaded up mid corner, especially if you hit a bump mid corner. The steering weight is much more consistant with power steering.

QFT. The unassisted steering also "falls over" at full lock. Too much load at full cornering force, less direct ratio, nonlinear force buildup, no more real feel, insufficient development time by the factory... It's not good.


i concur.

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Postby Benny » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:12 pm

I've owned 5's with and without PS, but for me, the PS is a real boon and makes the car more enjoyable to drive, and a lot easier if you have to park a lot or are in heavy traffic.

Go for it!
You'll love yourself for doing it.
The PS rack is faster than the manual one too, so you need to turn the wheels less for a given corner.
It's also a lot easier and faster to correct tail slides with power steering too.
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Postby Boyracer » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:59 am

Just do it...much better with P/S.
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Postby jules » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:39 pm

Now, there are 2 different types aren't there.
Early and later versions. I thought the later version NA8??? was the one to get

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Postby Matty » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:32 pm

jules wrote:Now, there are 2 different types aren't there.
Early and later versions. I thought the later version NA8??? was the one to get

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Yes, due to the sidetrack of designing the manual system demanded by the US dealers, development time was taken away from the 1.6 PS system. Some refinements were added to the NA8.

The NB system is more refined again, but not reverse compatible (without changing the front subframe)


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