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Postby nfs13b » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:05 pm

NFS13B/NSW/June 1989 - 6U9000NA6CE000084

I am led to believe this is a fairly early one....... maybe even the 84th one....
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Postby Big G » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:49 pm

Guys, I forgot that I had this chart
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My car is DU July 1990 NA6CE-123684
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Postby Jeo » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:35 pm

That is absolute gold Big G. I came here looking for something a little more vague i had read here before to reference elsewhere but that was so much more than I was expecting. Cheers :)

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Postby Jeo » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:55 pm

Also, holy crap!

My car is a private import that is registered in Aus as an 01/1990 model. The car is also insured as a 01/1990.
Soon after purchase I figured out that this wasn't that case as Black w/ Tan didn't exist until 91. Freaked out at first thinking it was a rebirth but EVERYTHING on the car lined up to the V-Special I thought it was, except the date. Thus I wasn't too worried about it. Not much of a difference and they probably stuffed it up at import.

But now that I've looked up my vin on the above table (NA6CE212***), I apparently have an 04/1993.
Anyone think its worth informing the RTA/insurance company?

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Postby zombie » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:06 pm

Jeo wrote:My car is a private import that is registered in Aus as an 01/1990 model. The car is also insured as a 01/1990.
[...]
I apparently have an 04/1993.
I wonder if that was done intentionally so it would sneak through under the original "15 year old" import rules.

Do you know when it was imported? early 2005 would be my guess...

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Postby Jeo » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:34 pm

Compliance plate says 98

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Postby 93_Clubman » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:56 pm

zombie wrote:I wonder if that was done intentionally so it would sneak through under the original "15 year old" import rules. Do you know when it was imported? early 2005 would be my guess...

private import so the 15 year rule doesn't apply

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Postby 93_Clubman » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:58 pm

Jeo wrote:Also, holy crap!

My car is a private import that is registered in Aus as an 01/1990 model. The car is also insured as a 01/1990.
Soon after purchase I figured out that this wasn't that case as Black w/ Tan didn't exist until 91. Freaked out at first thinking it was a rebirth but EVERYTHING on the car lined up to the V-Special I thought it was, except the date. Thus I wasn't too worried about it. Not much of a difference and they probably stuffed it up at import.

But now that I've looked up my vin on the above table (NA6CE212***), I apparently have an 04/1993.
Anyone think its worth informing the RTA/insurance company?

you certainly don't want to provide the insurance company with a potential loophole, but it might also depend on whether you have all the import documents to support your case & irrefutable evidence that it's a 04/1993

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Postby mxfive » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:05 pm

Hi All,

New here, just bought my RED 1993 NA LE.

Check out this link:

http://www.miata.org/vin-decoder

Type in your VIN and you will get the following information:

This Miata was built in Japan, by Mazda.

It is a 1st Generation (M1), with a .

It was built in at the Hiroshima plant.

It was the 100,463rd Miata built in .

Country of Origin: J Japan
Manufacturer: M Mazda
Vehicle Type: O
Miata Generation: NA 1st Generation (M1)
Body Style: 30
Engine Size/Type: 6
Check Digit: 2 Check digit, has no meaning.
Model Year: 0
Manufacturing Plant: 0 Hiroshima
Series Number: 200463 100,463rd in .

This is at odds with what I am reading in the posts in this thread which would suggest it is a 2nd Generation.

Which one is correct?

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Postby 93_Clubman » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:55 pm

mxfive wrote:Hi All,
New here, just bought my RED 1993 NA LE.

Check out this link:

http://www.miata.org/vin-decoder

Type in your VIN and you will get the following information:

This Miata was built in Japan, by Mazda.

It is a 1st Generation (M1), with a .

It was built in at the Hiroshima plant.

It was the 100,463rd Miata built in .

Country of Origin: J Japan
Manufacturer: M Mazda
Vehicle Type: O
Miata Generation: NA 1st Generation (M1)
Body Style: 30
Engine Size/Type: 6
Check Digit: 2 Check digit, has no meaning.
Model Year: 0
Manufacturing Plant: 0 Hiroshima
Series Number: 200463 100,463rd in .

This is at odds with what I am reading in the posts in this thread which would suggest it is a 2nd Generation.

Which one is correct?

Welcome! - I think you'll find the context that the decoder is using the term 'generation' is NA6 & NA8 is 1st generation or M1. NB is 2nd generation or M2 & NC is 3rd generation or m3. Also, the NA8 is sometimes referred to as M1.5. What you might be thinking of is called a revision number, i.e. where the bolded in JMONA3061 versus JMONA3062 is the revision number. Btw, just saw your post ref what # LE you have - if Mazda can't tell you, then may be only the prints were numbered, & not the actual car in any physically identifiable way. Although, it's possible a block of 100 VIN #s might have been alotted to the '93 red LE - only way to find out might be to compare to other '93 red LEs.

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Postby Guran » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:42 pm

Big G wrote:Guys, I forgot that I had this chart
Image

I found the original Excel file for this table:

http://www.verithingeoff.110mb.com/VW%2 ... r_vins.xls

It comes with some credits:

Data derived from registration numbers published on MX5OCforum by A. Stott and at miata.net.
This spreadsheet should only be used for guide purposes, and no guarantee as to it's acuracy is made.

Please do not reproduce in part or wholly without the permission of A. Thompson
Standard 2006 NC - YouTube
WP 1:11.89 | SMP-S 1:05.90 GP 1:54.93 N 1:18.09 L 2:22.49 | PW 1:02.52
PI 2:00.55 | W-S 1:12.44 W-L 1:43.36 | SR 1:33.25

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Postby nfs13b » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:00 pm

what about the june 1989 models...
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Postby Guran » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:22 pm

nfs13b wrote:what about the june 1989 models...

Dunno mate. I'm just reposting what A.Stott and A.Thompson worked out. I guess there might be some inaccuracy for the earliest cars. Though I notice your VIN prefix is 6U9000NA6CE0 compared with 6U9000NA6CE1 for the oldest ones on that table. So maybe there was a "0 series" in Jun, Jul & Aug '89 before the "1 series"???

BTW, here's an updated VIN register with a few gaps tidied up and my own VIN added. Looks like I've got a very late Series 1 NA6 (built Feb '92 versus Aug 2002 start for Series 2).

*PLEASE NOTE: I think that the complete VIN is necessary to ensure accuracy of this list. Especially as there could be sequential numbers that are more than the last 4 digits. Do not post if you are uncomfortable with this due to privacy issues.

Australian Delivered *First Series of NA6 MX5s
*must have first section of the VIN that reads JMONA306100XXXXXX
Name/State/Built Month & Year - *JMONA306100XXXXXX

Unknown/NSW/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100011
Fabio/SA/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100075
MX5A/VIC/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100076
orx626/QLD/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100105
mx52nv/WA/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100162
Unknown/NSW/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100237
93_Clubman/VIC/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100238
kula/NSW/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100253
1red5/QLD/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100333
TheMissus/QLD/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100382
StanTheMan/NSW/Sep '89 - VIN JMONA306100100406
Baldric1600//Oct '89 - VIN JMONA306100100635
Dingmaz/ACT/Dec '89 - VIN JMONA306100100915
Veloce/QLD/? '90 - VIN JMONA306100102718
Jimmy/ACT/Dec '90 - VIN JMONA306100102829
trader/ACT/Nov '91 - VIN JMONA306100103417
Annette's Malibu/NSW/Nov '91 - VIN JMONA306100103440
Guran/NSW/Feb '92 - VIN JMONA306100103761

Australian Delivered *Second Series of NA6 MX5s
*must have first section of the VIN that reads JMONA306200XXXXXX
Name/State/Built Month & Year - VIN JMONA306200XXXXXX

Gazbo/NSW/? '93 - VIN JMONA306200200236
mxfive/QLD/? '93 LE - VIN JMONA306200200463
KRM/NSW/? '93 LE - VIN JMONA306200200488

Imported Eunos Roadsters
Name/State/Built Month & Year - VIN 6U9000NA6CEXXXXXX

NFS13B/NSW/Jun '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE000084
Garbo/NSW/Jul '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE100351
dab/QLD/Oct '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE103783
GRUMP/QLD/Oct '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE104017
lightyear/VIC/Nov '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE105841
PhilM/NSW/Nov '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE106106
CapitalF/QLD/Dec '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE107337
xatz/NSW/Dec '89 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE107849
CheyneX5/VIC/Jan '90 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE109850
mid life 5/QLD/Feb '90 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE111465
Jcs86/QLD/Jun '90 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE120731
Big G/QLD/Jul '90 - VIN 6U9000NA6CE123684
(Build dates for imports are (mostly) extracted from this table)
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WP 1:11.89 | SMP-S 1:05.90 GP 1:54.93 N 1:18.09 L 2:22.49 | PW 1:02.52
PI 2:00.55 | W-S 1:12.44 W-L 1:43.36 | SR 1:33.25

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Postby Big G » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:21 am

Guran wrote:I found the original Excel file for this table:

http://www.verithingeoff.110mb.com/VW%2 ... r_vins.xls

It comes with some credits:
Data derived from registration numbers published on MX5OCforum by A. Stott and at miata.net.
This spreadsheet should only be used for guide purposes, and no guarantee as to it's acuracy is made.Please do not reproduce in part or wholly without the permission of A. Thompson

Just for info, Andrew Stott is a very good mate of mine in the UK, and I am also happy to call Andy Thompson a friend as well. The source on the web for that spread sheet is my website for Hofner Verithin guitar collectors, just a convenient place to park the file for access by UK forum members.
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Postby 93_Clubman » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:30 pm

Guran wrote:
nfs13b wrote:what about the june 1989 models...

Dunno mate. I'm just reposting what A.Stott and A.Thompson worked out. I guess there might be some inaccuracy for the earliest cars. Though I notice your VIN prefix is 6U9000NA6CE0 compared with 6U9000NA6CE1 for the oldest ones on that table. So maybe there was a "0 series" in Jun, Jul & Aug '89 before the "1 series"???


FWIW, the Eunos Roadster was released in March '89 in Japan.


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