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Jeo · Postby **Jeo** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:18 pm

MDF and a jigsaw are your friends here. Make yourself a small spacer to go between the speaker and the door and you should be right. Will sound better than straight mounting metal on metal too.

CJ5 · Postby **CJ5** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:37 pm

Thanks Jeo. I think I'll have to give that a try - unless someone has a simpler (lazier) option

Jeo · Postby **Jeo** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:06 pm

You can buy premade ones from autobarn/supercheap/etc but they won't fit as well and cost FAR more than a sheet of MDF. Or you could take it to a car audio shop and get them to make you up a pair, but again cost.

If you didn't own/have easy access to a jigsaw I could see those options but really, are you that lazy? :wink:

connico · Postby **connico** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:08 pm

CJ5 wrote:Thanks Jeo. I think I'll have to give that a try - unless someone has a simpler (lazier) option

There are things called spacers for speakers that are avaliable at Jaycar, you could use them to space your speakers out.

I am curious but what size speakers did you buy to have this issue? My impression of the 5 door kick speakers were 6x8 inch. A standard 6x8 inch speaker would have fit fine.

Regards

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CJ5 · Postby **CJ5** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:13 pm

connico wrote:There are things called spacers for speakers that are avaliable at Jaycar, you could use them to space your speakers out.

I am curious but what size speakers did you buy to have this issue? My impression of the 5 door kick speakers where 6inch. A standard 6 inch speaker would have fit fine.

Regards

haven't bought em yet. On the previous page Juffa, green_comet and Jeo recommended 6.5" precision response kevlar splits. Took my standard speaker in to compare size.. They have a 6x9 version, would that work better?

connico · Postby **connico** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:27 pm

after some searching..

break wrote:The tweeters I can't give you an accurate measurement (although they do look like the 'standard' size for most tweeters), but the mid-range speakers are 5x7 items.

The door holes are actually suited for an "8 round speaker

So the standard mid-range are 5x7 but the hole can fit a 8" round speaker.. This means you have multiple options to fit a speaker in this hole.

The best bet would be the get the trim of and double check that this is true... take the speaker into a shop and get a direct replacement if you dont want to muck around

A direct replacement would be something like this

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:31 pm

Yep hole is 8", I would be more worried about depth, but it's not an issue with the Jaycar splits, I've had them in for more than 2 years now and they are still going fine.
I also just made an MDF mount for them, doesn't take long, just use cardboard to get a template (from either stock speaker mount or door itself) copy onto MDF, cut, then use the template that comes with the jaycars to cut out the centre.

Jeo · Postby **Jeo** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:13 pm

Even if you go for an OEM sized replacement, I'd still recommend making up some MDF spacers. MDF has a little bit of play in it which really helps to absorb some of the vibrations that would otherwise be there if you mount straight to the door. A hard plastic spacer will get you the same problem.

CJ5 · Postby **CJ5** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:17 pm

thanks for the responses.

ok i got the splits. got a store to make up MDF spacers for me ($50) picking em up tomorrow.

Wiring seems simple enough apart from one thing - sticking to stock amp etc for now (cept iv got some avg/cheap looking pioneer HU) so which wires are the 'amp' to plug into the crossovers that came with the speakers, or should I not use the crossovers till i have an amp and solder speakers individually?

edit: and on that note - can anyone recommend an amp for these speakers? not planning on doing it any time soon but budget maybe $250, dont need the best of the best just something good. preferably something a little compact (thinking of fitting it behind the passenger seat) and it just needs to support these splits. dont think id ever need a sub (not a big fan of doof, but want gd quality for lots of metal

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Postby **Okibi** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:14 am

I have another (brand new) exactly the same as the one I use.

Jeo · Postby **Jeo** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:10 pm

Your headunit has a small internal amp built in to it. It should have four pairs of speaker wires coming out of the back (FR, FL, RR, RL) along with the normal power, acc, etc. Those wires will need to be connected to the line in part on the crossover, apparently labeled 'to amp' on yours.

If your headunit has already been installed those speaker wires will already be going straight to the existing speakers. In that case all you have to do is cut the wires somewhere along the line (preferably where it it will be easy to mount the crossover, ie not in the door) and connect the end leading to the headunit to the line in part of the crossover, and the other end to the main driver out. Then all thats left to do is connect the tweeter to the tweeter out on the crossover.

For a cheap amp get yourself back to Jaycar, if you aren't planning on running a sub a small two channel amp will do. Can probably get the required wiring and everything for <$250.

CJ5 · Postby **CJ5** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:23 pm

Jeo wrote:Your headunit has a small internal amp built in to it. It should have four pairs of speaker wires coming out of the back (FR, FL, RR, RL) along with the normal power, acc, etc. Those wires will need to be connected to the line in part on the crossover, apparently labeled 'to amp' on yours.

If your headunit has already been installed those speaker wires will already be going straight to the existing speakers. In that case all you have to do is cut the wires somewhere along the line (preferably where it it will be easy to mount the crossover, ie not in the door) and connect the end leading to the headunit to the line in part of the crossover, and the other end to the main driver out. Then all thats left to do is connect the tweeter to the tweeter out on the crossover.

edit: connected both the factory wires for tweeters and woofers together then connected to the crossover, works and wow these are some good speakers

just finished passenger side door, didnt know where to put the crossover i used lots of doublesided tape and stuck it on the inside of the door. will see if the tape can handle corners later

sliq · Postby **sliq** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:45 pm

cj5 have you got a photo of what the spacers look like?

i gotta prepare a set for mine. ps. got same speakers as yours.

sliq · Postby **sliq** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:47 pm

http://www.aerpro.com.au/list.php?pcode ... s&cat_sno=

checked the aerpro website. they have 6.5" spacers..

so you basically place these between your speakers and your door? hrmm..

CJ5 · Postby **CJ5** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:07 pm

only got a pic of the spacer in the door:

then you just screw in 4 screws for the speaker itself. Let me know if you come up with a better way of mounting the crossovers

the aerpro ones dont look right at all. if (like me) you dont have a jigsaw etc, any audio store would do it. the pair cost me $50 [they wanted $210 for a full install :shock:

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mine are done and sound great

thanks to everyone for the help