Lugcentric or Hubcentric?

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Lugcentric or Hubcentric?

Postby CheyneX5 » Sat May 23, 2009 2:13 pm

Hi all,

I just bought some 15x6.5 ROH wheels, i have 2 on the back and they seem to be going fine. But just for safety reasons, do i need hub rings for them?
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Postby Okibi » Sat May 23, 2009 2:27 pm

It's good to have them, they cost bugger all and weigh bugger all. I'd get them.
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Postby bensale » Sat May 23, 2009 4:07 pm

I had a quick look at these wheels, the hub holes are tapered in like the nuts. It was my understanding that if the the holes and nut are tapered then wheel is located correctly by this and is therefore Lug centric and doesn't require hub rings.

I guess it couldn't hurt to get a set though.
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Postby wun911 » Sat May 23, 2009 5:05 pm

My understanding is you dont need them they are added weight...
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Postby project.r.racing » Sat May 23, 2009 5:49 pm

since 100% of aftermarket wheels are supplied with them. i'd say you'd need them. locates the wheel directly to the centre of the hub. bolts will have some small tolerances.

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Postby Steampunk » Sat May 23, 2009 6:41 pm

project.r.racing wrote:since 100% of aftermarket wheels are supplied with them. i'd say you'd need them. locates the wheel directly to the centre of the hub. bolts will have some small tolerances.

what he said

Simply put the wheel onto the bolts WITHOUT a hub-ring and if the centre hole is too big, the wheel will jiggle around.
As Okibi stated, get hub rings as they are cheap & weigh nothing.
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Postby wun911 » Sat May 23, 2009 8:22 pm

My enkeis came with rings whats your OD they might fit you...
Seriously they do weigh something I haven't had a chance to weigh them yet but im pretty sure they weigh something...
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Postby CheyneX5 » Sat May 23, 2009 8:25 pm

OD?
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Postby wun911 » Sat May 23, 2009 8:35 pm

Its a ring so the numbers represent the ID inner diameter and OD outer diameter usually measured in mm.

The inner diameter is the same for both NA and NB, however the OD is dependent on what wheel you buy...
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Postby Moto » Sun May 24, 2009 2:06 am

project.r.racing wrote:since 100% of aftermarket wheels are supplied with them. i'd say you'd need them. locates the wheel directly to the centre of the hub. bolts will have some small tolerances.


Buddyclubs don't.

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Postby 16bit » Sun May 24, 2009 10:50 am

just put them on, end thread.
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Postby philz » Sun May 24, 2009 11:15 am

Moto wrote:
project.r.racing wrote:since 100% of aftermarket wheels are supplied with them. i'd say you'd need them. locates the wheel directly to the centre of the hub. bolts will have some small tolerances.


Buddyclubs don't.


Most don't come with them supplied because all cars a different, the tyre place have them.

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Postby Steampunk » Sun May 24, 2009 11:18 am

16bit wrote:just put them on, end thread.


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Postby philz » Sun May 24, 2009 11:20 am

wun911 wrote:My understanding is you dont need them they are added weight...


Well if you had lightweight wheels to begin with, this would make sense.

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Postby greenMachine » Sun May 24, 2009 12:02 pm

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