Review: Town & Country Exhaust System

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Review: Town & Country Exhaust System

Postby toymx5 » Tue May 05, 2009 4:08 am

Just thought I'd give everyone some feedback about the exhaust I got put on my 99 NB today.

I've only had my 99 for a week or two and whilst it's in excellent condition having done only 110,000 Ks the performance was nothing special, the motor I believed needing a good mechanic to look it over and getting it running a bit sweeter, it had the normal idle drop, it didn't start first crank, and I suspected a possible cracked engine mount.

Grateful of the advice I received from this forum I had a new exhaust fitted today by Town & Country in Geelong West, a 1 1/4 hour drive but I was OK with that due to the recommendations. The staff there was great and showed me each of the parts to be fitted before they started which I thought was a nice touch. I got the steel hi-flow cat which is a really trick, a resonator, mild steel piping and a free flow sports stainless steel muffler. They only took a few hours to fit and the system looked great, all neatly done, the piping painted in black which made the polished stainless muffler look even better.

I could see the staff there were dying for me to hear it, so much so they couldn't wait for me start it so they offered to start it for me ! Wow, from the first second I was blown away, my shy little MX had found a strong healthy voice that put a big smile on my face ! It was quite a bit louder than I'd expected as I hadn't gone for headers, but it was what I would have hoped for had I. The sound was a lot deeper and sweeter than my old 90 that had commercial extractor/sports exhaust on it, and I was dying to take it for a drive to see if it preformed half as good as it sounded ! Forum member pcmx5 had kindly offered to meet me down there and show me his clubman and I took him with me for the test drive. Immediately I noticed the sharpness and smoothness of the throttle response, something that had sadly been missing, taking off it was immediate noticeable that she had more power as well as a seriously cool note. I really was very much surprized at the difference it made, it really transformed the car, it now feels and sounds like a real sports car. pcmx5 drive it back to Town & Country and I think he was impressed too.

I greatly enjoyed the trip back to Melbourne, sans the stereo which could never match the sounds coming from the exhaust pipe :) It was interesting to feel the difference in the engine on the way back and luckily I had the highway much to myself so I was able to do some acceleration and power load tests and it just felt so strong and responsive. A couple of times I had to slow to 60 for road works and leaving it in 5th I accelerated back to 100 with just a smooth surge of power that sounded amazing :) At 100 k's in 5th (3,150 rpm) there was no hint of any droning, just sweet music.

The thing that has me baffled is the idle dip has gone, the harshness of the engine is gone !. The only thing that I still need to get looked at is the starting which still isn't as good as I'd like, I'm use to my cars starting on the first fire every time. Oh, and to check out the engine mounts.

I'm just sad I didn't get a pre/post dyno check as was suggested but I honestly thought the engine wasn't quite up to it at the moment. I would have to believe it has been a sizable power & torque improvement, the difference in driveability is that great. I won’t do any more mods to the engine till I can get it on a dyno as I'm sure pcmx5 & the guys at Town & Country are just as curious as me as to what she's putting out now.

A big thanks to everyone who gave me their advice, especially pcmx5 and the staff at Town & Country, I couldn't be happier :)

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Review: Town & Country Exhaust System

Postby pcmx5 » Tue May 05, 2009 9:16 am

Glad you are happy with it Peter. His car is a ripper just so clean and rides really well, so well that i cannot believe it is on standard suspension.

There is no doubt that the steel cat does increase the noise level but seat of the pants in TOYMX there does seem to be a strong improvement with a really flat torque characteristic,pulling really well right through the range and revving cleanly up top.

This may be the best sounding MX I have heard!!!

Sorry though Peter, my car is an LE not a Clubman!

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Postby stevesports » Tue May 05, 2009 10:38 am

speaking of this, my exhaust is beginning to show signs of rust in a lot of places. I never noticed it before, but when i was changing my shocks i had a chance to peer under there and yeah, it is beginning to rust. Annoying =[. Note: mine is a mild steel version.

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Postby pcmx5 » Tue May 05, 2009 10:48 am

Stevesports,

Any mild steel exhaust will end up with surface rust as the paint wears of, but it will take a hell of a time to "rust" out.I don't think it is anything to worry about.


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Postby Fatty » Tue May 05, 2009 4:39 pm

yeah thats prefectly normal steve, my exhaust is less than a year old and has a bit of surface rust too.

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Postby AB7 » Tue May 05, 2009 4:47 pm

Like what everyone said, thats normal Steve
I painted my mild steel mid pipe with hi temp paint, but the paint literally 'flew off' during my recent dyno tuning.

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Postby green_comet » Tue May 05, 2009 6:07 pm

Nice work, you should post up a sound clip or video of it running.

I remember when I got my full exhaust put on, I wasn't happy at all with the finished product...It was made up very well, but to me the BP engine sounds like ass. I was expecting it to sound like my old 4AGE Sprinter, but it wasn't even close. :?

Im waiting for the exhaust to fall apart, then im going to try this setup..

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25642&sid=29252ef3c507cd858ba6d57aa48ed75a

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Postby philz » Tue May 05, 2009 6:15 pm

What exhaust setup do u have GC?

What about this Rsr sounding exhaust mmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsY8kJRa6JY

BP engines are pretty nice sounding imo, better than the sr20 :lol:

I'm waiting for them to release the NB version of that DP exhaust.

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Postby green_comet » Tue May 05, 2009 6:23 pm

Im running, HPC coated 4-2-1 headers, with a stainless highflow cat, 2 1/4 piping, resonator, and stainless magnaflow rear muffler.

Its ok, and it made a decent performance gain, but just dont like the sound, I might take the resonator out.

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Postby toymx5 » Sat May 23, 2009 7:04 pm

Just an update on my exhaust,

The sound just keeps getting better and better, it's turned quite deep now and I love it, I go for drives just to put the top down and listen to the exhaust !!

One of our forum members 'Ready to cruise' heard it today and he thought it was the best sounding MX he's heard :)

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Review: Town & Country Exhaust System

Postby philz » Sat May 23, 2009 7:08 pm

any pics of the exhaust?

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Postby toymx5 » Sat May 23, 2009 10:04 pm

Sorry, no I don't have any photos, I'll try to take some tomorrow but I don't know how much use they'll be. If you want more details of the T & C system message 'pcmx5', he's the brains behind the system, he's been working with the guys @ T & C to perfect a system for the MX. My system has the latest hi-flo steel cat and a new stainless hi-flo muffler they used for the first time. If you're in the Melb area your welcome to come have a listen to it.

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Postby Moto » Sun May 24, 2009 2:13 am

How much did it set you back?

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Postby toymx5 » Sun May 24, 2009 6:25 pm

The system was $930.00, that includes the steel hi-flow cat, mid pipe and resonator, stainless steel hi-flow sports muffler and chrome tip. It's 2 1/4 ". They did a great job of fitting it and the real muffler is nice and compact so fits up high out of sight although it's a shame in a way as you don't get to see the nice polished stainless finish !

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Postby Moto » Mon May 25, 2009 11:50 am

Thats a good price for a system like that.


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