Engine Build - Not sure if it will be NA or Turbo!

daffyflyer · Postby **daffyflyer** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:29 pm

Fuzzlet wrote:Wow you arent wasting any time on this at all. One thing I might reccommend, is get the crank professionally checked for cracks etc. U dont wanna put the engine together only to find the crank is stuffed and you've wasted a good few hours work. Interesting hearing about the problems with the coolant though...

Yeah, Guess I have put in about 20 hours so far, with others assisting, im kinda getting into it :>

Good Point, im guessing an engine machining place should be able to do the crack testing?

It seems besides the stuffed bearing it looks like a new engine in there (what a suprise!

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One thing i did notice though is that one of the cam bearings/caps has a like.. crater in it, im not really sure what to do about that, as they arent replacable shells

Boags · Postby **Boags** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:08 pm

20k km on a rebuilt engine? Any chance of a warranty job from those who rebuilt it? :?:

Jeo · Postby **Jeo** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:33 pm

Making good use of Canberra's birthday eh?

daffyflyer · Postby **daffyflyer** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:48 pm

Boags wrote:20k km on a rebuilt engine? Any chance of a warranty job from those who rebuilt it?

Err... not so much, *cough* Lack of Oil *Cough* Track Abuse :oops:

Jeo wrote:Making good use of Canberra's birthday eh?

Yeah Actually, at work - IT Call Centre on a public holiday = crazy huge overtime and about 10 calls in a day : :mrgreen:

Fuzzlet · Postby **Fuzzlet** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:58 pm

Boags wrote:20k km on a rebuilt engine? Any chance of a warranty job from those who rebuilt it?

Hahahaha. This engine came about because the previous engine lasted 114kms. Not 114 thousand kms, a measly 114km before it blew itself apart. It was enough of an ass around trying to get the workshop to build another engine for me after 114ks, let alone 25k kms or so

adamjp · Postby **adamjp** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:18 pm

I'm halfway through the rebuild of my NA6 engine.

I have 11:1 pistons, lightweight rods, 1mm OS valves on a ported head and HKS cams. Bearings are from ACL Race Series.

I had the crank finished and polished by an engine builder in Queanbeyan who also did the head work.

Look hard at the parts from http://www.belfabracing.com/.
If you decide to go ahead with parts from him, let me know, he owes me some money through an overcharge on postage.

bigdog · Postby **bigdog** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:24 pm

What is the Belfab quality like Adam? price seems pretty good for the full kit...

adamjp · Postby **adamjp** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:11 am

I bought the water pump, pistons, valves and valve springs from them.

The rods are from another place as Belfab makes the H beam types which are too strong for my need, and the extra weight is actually counter productive.

The pistons appear good, the man who did the head told me that he thought the valves/valve springs to be the equal of any of the common aftermarket products. Gents in the US using the products (particularly the rods) seem happy with them. I did a fair bit of research before I tipped the $$$ in.

I'll let you know how it all goes together. It would be together now but for the thrust bearings I bought from a person on this forum......lets just say that KF-KE bearings do not suit the KE-KF laser, but the KF-KE Mazda engine. :evil:

There was a big cloud of swear words in the garage on saturday afternoon when I worked that little one out. B6/BP bearings arrive today.

If anyone is looking for B6 engine bits, I have most of two spare engines that I don't need (no long nose cranks though).

daffyflyer · Postby **daffyflyer** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:49 pm

Photos!

Starting Point

Whatever im doing here CANT be good :mrgreen:

Radiator Out

Me bludging in a wheel arch, most likely working out how to get the clutch slave off.

Me + Mate trying to figure out how bolt comes off.

RTFM FTW

No, it does not hold the car up!

But it does stop the gear box from crushing me! yay!

Engine coming out

Ditto

Moving Engine

Degreasing

Disasembeling on stand

Rocker Cover Off

Neatness WIN.

Cams Out.

Head Off

Oil pan off

Degreasing +1

Ditto

I Has Piston..

Block missing everything else :mrgreen:

Nice Clean Block

Will take some photos of stuff bearings soon :>

CheyneX5 · Postby **CheyneX5** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:05 pm

Wow mate, thats very inspiring. Looks like your doing a good job so far!

Postby **orx626** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:55 pm

Nice work guys!!! Looks like you've got it well under control!!! :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Danny

daffyflyer · Postby **daffyflyer** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:54 am

orx626 wrote:Nice work guys!!! Looks like you've got it well under control!!!

Cheers,
Danny

Thanks, I sure hope we do

Its strange, I don't think we are all that good at it, its the first engine we have had apart (done a few engine swaps before, on lancers) but it just all seems to be easier than i expect!.

I imagine putting it back together is the hard bit, any tips for not building a grenade? :lol:

daffyflyer · Postby **daffyflyer** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:59 am

adamjp wrote:I'm halfway through the rebuild of my NA6 engine.

I have 11:1 pistons, lightweight rods, 1mm OS valves on a ported head and HKS cams. Bearings are from ACL Race Series.

I had the crank finished and polished by an engine builder in Queanbeyan who also did the head work.

Look hard at the parts from http://www.belfabracing.com/.
If you decide to go ahead with parts from him, let me know, he owes me some money through an overcharge on postage.

Cheers, I reckon I will get pistons and gaskets from them, I dont see a water pump there though?

Who is the engine builder you went to, what was the price like and did he do a good job?

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:44 pm

daffyflyer wrote:Photos!

Degreasing +1

Ditto

OI!!!!! Where's your bunding? Degreaser to stormwater is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD!!!!! Tsk Tsk Tsk - better hope the local neighbours don't send these pics to the EPA in your area.

Otherwise I'd give you an A for effort, not an E for Environment.

daffyflyer · Postby **daffyflyer** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:10 pm

Uncle Arthur wrote:
daffyflyer wrote:Photos!

Degreasing +1

Ditto

OI!!!!! Where's your bunding? Degreaser to stormwater is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD!!!!! Tsk Tsk Tsk - better hope the local neighbours don't send these pics to the EPA in your area.

Otherwise I'd give you an A for effort, not an E for Environment.

Didn't think of that, Should have a big notice on the can! :oops:

Im expecting a post any minute from my partner in crime calling it a hairdressers car, could we arange some big blokes in MX5s to rock up at his place?