My dream NC build

Postby **mx52nv** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:45 am

I have been thinking about the following for some time now.
It is very much a personal taste and based on my own experience.
Please be gentle and don't just tell me to go buy an Exige S :lol:

Here is what I would love to be able to do if funds were available.

Stripped NC - Goal weight 950 kgs (remove everything except dash)
Seam welded & FIA approved 16 point chromolly roll cage (to front strut towers)
2.0 head with 2.5 bottom end
Forged 9.0:1 CR Pistons and Rods
Custom steam pipe exhaust manifold
HKS GT2835 Pro
Custom 50mm Alloy Radiator
Custom Intercooler & piping
3" straight through exhaust with a droopy tip :mrgreen:

MoTec M800
SARD 750/850cc injectors.
Malpassi Fuel Pressure Regulator
Bosch 044 In line Fuel Pump
External fuel surge tank
Twin plate clutch (someone has to make one for the NC)
AP Racing 4 piston callipers front on custom brackets
AP Racing 2 piston callipers rear on custom brackets
AP Racing Master brake cylinder & reservoir
AP Racing 310mm slotted & vented disc rotors mounted on custom floating alloy hats
AP Brake Proportioning valve
Steel braided lines
Ohlins DFV Externally Cooled Fully Adjustable Damper & Height Coilovers
Cusco 2 Way Type RS LSD
RP-F1 18x9.5 (offset to clear the brakes)
Kumho 285/30/18 slicks
Carbon Kevlar Sparcos/Recaros (which ever is lighter)
Sparco FIA 6 point harnesses
Fire extinguisher

I'm sure I missed a few things so I'll come back and add or modify things as this thread progresses.
Remember be gentle people, my dream is easily destroyed

*edit*
LSD added

fastfreddygassit · Postby **fastfreddygassit** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:52 am

sounds tasty :mrgreen:

what diff would you be running?

Postby **orx626** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:09 pm

Our recipes are very similar Les! :mrgreen:

Would love to go head to head on a race track one day :twisted:

Here's my dream NC......

Stripped NC - Goal weight 900 kgs (remove everything except dash)
FIA Homologated 6 point roll cage
Series 2 RX-8 - 13B MSP Rotary Engine
Series 2 RX-8 - 6 speed gearbox
Series 2 RX-8 - 4.777:1 differential assembly
Fujita Engineering (FEED) exhaust manifold
Eaton M90 Supercharger
Custom 50mm Alloy Radiator
Custom engine oil cooler
Custom Air to Water Intercooler
3" straight through exhaust with twin outlets
MoTec M800
Suitably sized injectors.
Malpassi Fuel Pressure Regulator
Bosch 040 In-tank Fuel Pump
Heavy Duty Exedy Single Plate Organic clutch
Brembo 8 piston calipers front on custom brackets
Brembo 4 piston calipers rear on custom brackets - seperate handbrake caliper
Suitable sized master cylinder
Front brake rotors - custom 2-piece 355 x 32mm
Rear brake rotors - custom 2-piece 320 x 28mm
Wilwood/AP Brake Proportioning valve
Steel braided lines
Tein Flex Coil-overs with EDFC
Front Wheels - Enkei RPF1 18x8.5 35P with Toyo R888 225/40 R18
Rear Wheels - Enkei RPF1 18x10.5 15P with Toyo R888 295/30 R18
Sparco Sprint V seats
Sparco FIA 6 point harnesses
Fire extinguisher
Carbon fibre rear wing
Mazdaspeed front bar
Momo 10" steering wheel

Postby **mx52nv** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:18 pm

Hmmm how on earth did I forget the diff :shock:

Sheesh. Well again this will be personal taste and experience so I'll say the contenders are Cusco 2 Way Type RS or the Tomei Traxx. However for strictly racing line purposes I think the Cusco RS will pip the Tomei

*edit* How did Danny beat me to my post :shock:

And yes great minds eh?

Oh and just small error but it is Les not Len :wink:

Postby **orx626** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:26 pm

mx52nv wrote:Oh and just small error but it is Les not Len

Apologies Les :oops:

. Fixed it!

.

Will chat more about these dreams very soon...looking forward to the 18th.

Cheers,
Danny

Mokesta · Postby **Mokesta** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:06 pm

Fess up Danny, how many of those parts do you already have???

M

Postby **orx626** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:21 pm

Mokesta wrote:Fess up Danny, how many of those parts do you already have???

M

Not as many as I would like....most of my parts are series 1 RX-8. So, maybe just on half of the recipe. The series 2 stuff is way out of my reach now that the Yen has strengthened 2-fold on the AUD

. Will just see how the series 1 equipment performs.

4sfed5 · Postby **4sfed5** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:35 pm

you forgot to add the wheel arch flares your gonna need for those 285's. Brian goodwins car just looks "fully sic" with them on. :mrgreen:

Postby **mx52nv** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:58 pm

Update!

Looks like someone from the English speaking world (ok I admit it's American English), has done the complete 2.3 engine swap on the big forum

The obvious thing to bear in mind is the left hand drive (U.S.) and right hand drive (Australia) difference between our cars (i.e. steering column, master cylinder, etc).

See thread here -> click me

Really good thread with some decent pictures.

The parts that were carried over from the NC 2.0 LF-VE were:
Fuel Rail
Coil Packs
Intake Manifold
Throttle Body (bigger diameter and plugs are different)
Oil Filter Assembly (from cartridge to spin-on)
Oil Pan
Oil Pickup
Cam Cover (may not be necessary as the OP's donor 2.3 L3-VE engine had a cracked valve cover)
Clutch (may not be necessary as the OP from the big forum was meant to replace this but got the wrong clutch delivered)

Necessary costs (AUD in brackets as at 22/12/08 rates)
Engine = USD$1,600 plus USD$100 core (AUD$2350)
Extra stuff: USD$270 (AUD$400)
Balance Delete Shaft kit = USD$40 (AUD $60)
Labour=?????

Videos of engine running
Clip 1
Clip 2

And a link to NOPRO's 2.3 NC running at Tsukuba from new forum member RE-Xtreme's blog.

I am seriously wondering how much Chris at MX5 Racing sells one of their log-booked NCs for?

bruce · Postby **bruce** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:29 pm

That thread makes the swap look so easy.

Charlie Brown · Postby **Charlie Brown** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:43 pm

mx52nv wrote:
Remember be gentle people, my dream is easily destroyed

BEWARE Nightmare introduced. :roll:

Sorry to rain on your dream because it is a good one

but there isn't a commercially available turbo setup that fits the NC. There just isn't enough room under the bonnet on the exhaust side. There's a trail one in Japan that's fitted behind the rear axel. Yet to see production though.

Why not swap out your turbo dream for the full race 2.3 Cosworth motor or just the Cosworth supercharger?

Postby **mx52nv** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:41 pm

Charlie Brown wrote:
mx52nv wrote:
Remember be gentle people, my dream is easily destroyed
BEWARE Nightmare introduced.
Sorry to rain on your dream because it is a good one but there isn't a commercially available turbo setup that fits the NC.

mx52nv wrote:Custom steam pipe exhaust manifold

Never said I was going to use a commercially available turbo kit.

Charlie Brown wrote:Why not swap out your turbo dream for the full race 2.3 Cosworth motor or just the Cosworth supercharger?

I think my dream set up will have both more horsepower and a broader power band for less money. 400rwhp or 300rwkw shouldn't be a problem (I have a "little" experience). Actually the more I hear the doubters, the more I feel like doing it and stop the BP build going atm... :mrgreen:

*SLAP* ......errrm that was my wife objecting :oops:

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:52 pm

Build it!
Wives are easy to come by

Postby **Okibi** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:33 pm

Gotta be a 2.5 lt cosworth. :mrgreen:

So far i'd also be sticking on the autoexe body kit.

16bit · Postby **16bit** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:16 pm

if its a race car i would be getting the 300hp cosi motor plus supercharge it and run it on race fuel. something like elf 110 ron. in my book hi comp supercharged is the dogs. that would be MENTAL. however expensive it may be. just my 2c