CAI and Forced Induction ... waste of time?

[Okibi]

Also I assume.. the cooler the air entering the turbo the cooler the turbo will remain and the less it will transfer heat to the air it compresses.

[NMX516]

Also I assume.. the cooler the air entering the turbo the cooler the turbo will remain and the less it will transfer heat to the air it compresses.

Yep, and they say that a cooler turbo spins up quicker too...

[Tezzax5]

I'm probably talking through my .
Has anyone thought about using a couple of thermo electric motor coolers(Think electric rc car racing.They use them on brushless motors so they can overgear and not thermal the motor)
Low voltage and they work pretty quick.
Put a couple in parallel on an alloy intake and down goes the air intake temp.
Much More is one brand that comes to mind plus there are a few diy's floating on the rc forums..

just a thought

[crzymx]

Makes perfect sense, even if the intercooler does remove 98% of the heat. At least the CAI will feed through cooler air, thus making it even easier as previously stated.

[Juffa]

Here is a pic of the engine bay of the car that mx5mainia setup. The car is currently on the NSW Club website as being for sale, registered in NSW.



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[GS]

This looks very similar to the setup Fuzzlet had in his NA8 (although they were both build by Mania so that really shouldnt be a surprise).

Sounds like a fun track car, wonder how much they want for it?

[Fuzzlet]

Ah that would be Rennie's car...the hardcore engine from my NA was sold. That car was the prototype for my CAI. I already had the Mania CAI, and said that if I went turbo, I wanted to keep it, so they used Rennies car as a test mule.....I wonder why he's selling it though. A few pics of my setup:







As you can see, it was a bit of a mess piping wise to get the CAI piping to fit, but we did it. We were considering just covering the hole and having the pod in the stock location, but figured if the holes there why not try to use it? That and since the turbo already heats the air why not give the IC a helping hand...

[crzymx]

If someone doesnt mind answering this. If i do decide to do the whole CAI thing, do i still need to have all the electronics that are hooked up to my existing air box? or just the pipe pod and CAI?

[Alex]

If someone doesnt mind answering this. If i do decide to do the whole CAI thing, do i still need to have all the electronics that are hooked up to my existing air box? or just the pipe pod and CAI?

If you have the standard ECU then you will still need to keep everything, normally the airflow will go straight after the pod and you drill a hole at the top of the pod for the small temp sensor.

[d-mag]

That looks fantastic Fuzzlet. The only issue would be that your unable to fit a strut brace, other than that I really like it.

[Fuzzlet]

That looks fantastic Fuzzlet. The only issue would be that your unable to fit a strut brace, other than that I really like it.

Yep unfortunately. On Rennie's car (one for sale at Mania), he already had the brace so daniel had to use a smaller pipe and tighter bends to make it fit, but it is possible haha

[Fatty]

this is my version (the origin of this whole topic, no less). it's pretty much the same as fuzzlet's and rennies, just a bit more ghetto..

[Fuzzlet]

this is my version (the origin of this whole topic, no less). it's pretty much the same as fuzzlet's and rennies, just a bit more ghetto..

Haha so long as it does the job thats the important part right?

[Tedsmx5]

And now for something completely different. Cold air flows under the raised head light cover.

[lucifuge]

An IC can only cool air so much. A CAI can't hinder and usually helps a fair bit. I'm a bit perplexed as to why it is referred to as a waste of time? The cooler the charge air the better and to imply that a IC can do as well as a CAI + IC combined is ludicrous.