Is a 30% increase in power possible with CAI and an Exhaust?
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Is a 30% increase in power possible with CAI and an Exhaust?
Just out of interest re tighe cams. I did speak to them and as IRED5 states they did seem uninterested.
I, did however buy a set of tighe 805 cams with cam gears from gary stewart. $1,000 fitted. Very happy with them.
And before someone asks me duration, lift? No idea.
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I, did however buy a set of tighe 805 cams with cam gears from gary stewart. $1,000 fitted. Very happy with them.
And before someone asks me duration, lift? No idea.
Cheers Novice1 aka Ron
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1red5 wrote:pcmx5 wrote:I thought you could have your cams done to 805 spec for $500 or buy new bullets for $1000
correct.
But when I spoke to someone at Tighe, they made me feel like I was asking them to clean my toilet for me. "Disinterested" is the word I'm looking for.
$500 for them to build-up standard cams with welds ..... hmmmm.... no thanks.
i know what you mean, i was emailing them for weeks and they just gave me simple 1 sentence answers. not very perfessional in my opinion, ended up taking a week to get what i wanted out of them, i'm glad i wasn't the one that originally purchased the cams from them.
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pcmx5 wrote:Obviously you have done your homework, wasn't trying to denigrate the SH cams but occasionally people go ahead and buy things for almost new price so was just a heads up.
I will be most interested to hear your outcomes, should be really good because mine is just a mild set up well(I think) tuned
I started off with a lean running standard engine and put a Malpassi fuel reulator on and it made little difference so I was partially trying to correct that issue with the MIcrotechs adjustability ,and then thought if I am going to get a dynotune why not try the Tighe cams which had good reviews.
I think I will fit a new fuel pump and have been toying with replacing the XForce extractors with the set of Racing Beat 4:1's that I have so will have to do that and the pump before a retune.I have a bit of a fear that I might do all that and go backwards in terms of drivability!!!
Good luck with your project please keep posting as you go along.
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yeah, i do ALOT of research before i purchase something, i do know what you mean though and no offence taken in any way. i think my setup is a little on the extreme side, but i just want to do it first, do it right and get maximum use out of the head. i'm intrested to hear if you do fit the rb 4-1's as that is what i plan on running, according to the reviews they are just as good as a 4-2-1 in terms of driveability but make more top end power.
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i'm intrested to hear if you do fit the rb 4-1's as that is what i plan on running, according to the reviews they are just as good as a 4-2-1 in terms of driveability but make more top end power.
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We have 4-2-1 on our race engine (2F BP), we have a set of 4-1 (not sure what brand they are) which make more HP up top (3 FWhp more in the last 700RPM) but there's a BIG torque dip around 4000RPM. Area under the curve is bigger for our engine with the 4-2-1's.
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i'm intrested to hear if you do fit the rb 4-1's as that is what i plan on running, according to the reviews they are just as good as a 4-2-1 in terms of driveability but make more top end power.
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We have 4-2-1 on our race engine (2F BP), we have a set of 4-1 (not sure what brand they are) which make more HP up top (3 FWhp more in the last 700RPM) but there's a BIG torque dip around 4000RPM. Area under the curve is bigger for our engine with the 4-2-1's.
Cheers,
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i'm intrested to hear if you do fit the rb 4-1's as that is what i plan on running, according to the reviews they are just as good as a 4-2-1 in terms of driveability but make more top end power.
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We have 4-2-1 on our race engine (2F BP), we have a set of 4-1 (not sure what brand they are) which make more HP up top (3 FWhp more in the last 700RPM) but there's a BIG torque dip around 4000RPM. Area under the curve is bigger for our engine with the 4-2-1's.
Cheers,
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as stated, the rb 4-1 was designed to surpass their previous 4-2-1 setup, they hold the midrange of a conventional 4-2-1 and have more top end too. maybe you could find out the brand of those 4-1's you have, and what brand your 4-2-1's are.
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I have Apexi 4-1 with the primary pipes meeting just before where 4-2-1 would have their secondaries meeting to join into tertiaries. Does that make sense?
Noticeable lack of low-end torque up till 2,500RPM; but after that it revs like a 4-2-1 system, and feels freer than a 4-2-1 after 5,500RPM or so.
Dynoed not long ago and there doesn't seem to be any substantial torque dip down low.
Dont' forget to install a flexi joint before the cat!

Noticeable lack of low-end torque up till 2,500RPM; but after that it revs like a 4-2-1 system, and feels freer than a 4-2-1 after 5,500RPM or so.
Dynoed not long ago and there doesn't seem to be any substantial torque dip down low.
Dont' forget to install a flexi joint before the cat!

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Nice Dyno graph Peter, love the Torque peak between 6k-6.5k and 86% of peak torque still available at 7500rpm, must feel like it want's to go well beyond 8K.
It's interesting how there is a peak section around 4k-4.5k then another stronger peak later on, almost like a vtec, and more so than a VICS system. of the top of my head na8 doesn't have a variable intake chamber system Does it? and are you still running the NA8 heads and Intake?
I thought there would be plently left to get in your 1/4 time, was that Air Temp or Track Temp
either way it looked like a warm track with a much improvable 60ft time, so with grippy tyres 60f- 2.0 and cooler weather should be edging a 14s pass.
It would be interesting now with the 6speed i think that alone will help with the 60ft's and could dip below a 2.0 with grippy tyres and the LSD.
But i Think your setup is calling for a Supercharger
, it would work superbly with the Head and exhaust flows you have going
Matt
It's interesting how there is a peak section around 4k-4.5k then another stronger peak later on, almost like a vtec, and more so than a VICS system. of the top of my head na8 doesn't have a variable intake chamber system Does it? and are you still running the NA8 heads and Intake?
I thought there would be plently left to get in your 1/4 time, was that Air Temp or Track Temp

It would be interesting now with the 6speed i think that alone will help with the 60ft's and could dip below a 2.0 with grippy tyres and the LSD.
But i Think your setup is calling for a Supercharger

Matt
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what is this crystal mod you speak of? i would like my n/a set up to run @ 8000rpm, and the greddy emanage is unable to do this.
won't go beyond 7350rpm until you disable the Immobiliser
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Rotary wrote:MXHEVN wrote:
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what is this crystal mod you speak of? i would like my n/a set up to run @ 8000rpm, and the greddy emanage is unable to do this.
won't go beyond 7350rpm until you disable the Immobiliser
Matt
wha, hows that work? there was a writeup about this sometime ago wasnt there? do you happen to have any links etc?
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hevn, do a search on "crystal" in the engines section and you should find what you are looking for. look for a thread with posts by stantheman and matty.
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Fatty wrote:hevn, do a search on "crystal" in the engines section and you should find what you are looking for. look for a thread with posts by stantheman and matty.
thank you fatty, i shall
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[quote="? and are you still running the NA8 heads and Intake?
I thought there would be plently left to get in your 1/4 time, was that Air Temp or Track Temp
either way it looked like a warm track with a much improvable 60ft time, so with grippy tyres 60f- 2.0 and cooler weather should be edging a 14s pass.
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Still stock NA heads etc.; that was air temp, don't have track temp..My first run was the fastest but I did have a better 60ft time on another run and then hit 5th instead of 3rd!!!
.Supercharger is just too much cost etc for me, I really don't use the power I have now that often. probably more interested in drivability and reasonable power.
Peter.
I thought there would be plently left to get in your 1/4 time, was that Air Temp or Track Temp

Matt[/quote]
Still stock NA heads etc.; that was air temp, don't have track temp..My first run was the fastest but I did have a better 60ft time on another run and then hit 5th instead of 3rd!!!
.Supercharger is just too much cost etc for me, I really don't use the power I have now that often. probably more interested in drivability and reasonable power.
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Gotta love those tight gates, Exactly what I did last time out, final run with the temp down to 8'C primed to do my quickest run with a best launch of 2.17, i hit between 3rd n 5th, then ended up in 5th
no margin for error in dragracing especially when you get 3 runs in 3 hours.
Like to hear how you go with the 6speed if you get out there again
Matt

Like to hear how you go with the 6speed if you get out there again
Matt
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