Lowering

TieNN89 · Postby **TieNN89** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:54 pm

Alright

So I've been wanting to lower my NB8A for a while now
But I want to still be legal height (I heard it was 100mm clearance)

does that 100mm clearance include the plastic under tray under my engine?

I'm looking at Tein Super Street Coil Overs
Is it worth the $$

And whats the best price you've gotten on these in Brisbane

wun911 · Postby **wun911** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:09 pm

I hear the ss is cheaper if you import the jap sepc ones...

I think the 100mm is lowest point of the car... not sure where that is...

philz · Postby **philz** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:19 pm

It's 100mm from the lowest point on your car, it varies- with some cars with angled exhausts that would be the lowest point etc. But I do believe that plastic tray or the lip is lowest point, because I can't put my standard size jack under there.

You are looking at around $1800 for Aus spec Tein SS- and <$1500 for Jap spec ones.

sliq · Postby **sliq** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:20 pm

correct wun, lowest point on your car.

it's usually the mudflap.

if you're planning on lowering it azntien, just get some lowering springs..

the way i see it, there's no feasible point on spending thousands of dollars for a suspension set up that you won't be taking advantage of 95% of the time.

StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:28 pm

Its also about the maximum decrease in suspension travel. so its not quite as simple as 100mm

so if you want it legal. have a read at the sticky post in the suspension area.
100mm is the lowers leagal hight together with min travel reduction from stock form.
With the NB's you'll find thats somewhere above the 100mm ride height

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TieNN89 · Postby **TieNN89** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:24 pm

philz wrote:It's 100mm from the lowest point on your car, it varies- with some cars with angled exhausts that would be the lowest point etc. But I do believe that plastic tray or the lip is lowest point, because I can't put my standard size jack under there.

You are looking at around $1800 for Aus spec Tein SS- and <$1500 for Jap spec ones.

well if it includes the plastic under tray

well there goes my lowering

the plastic under tray is approx 100mm last i checked

TieNN89 · Postby **TieNN89** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:29 pm

sliq wrote:correct wun, lowest point on your car.

it's usually the mudflap.

if you're planning on lowering it azntien, just get some lowering springs..

the way i see it, there's no feasible point on spending thousands of dollars for a suspension set up that you won't be using 95% of the time.

well I'm told my dampers will wear out quick if i don't replace the dampers as well

so i might as well spend the extra $$ and get to play with screws and knobs

Sheck · Postby **Sheck** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:56 pm

you could always get aragosta coil overs from me, that way you can play with knobs and have leight weight coilovers, plus two sets of spring rates to play with

Isn't there something mentioned about suspension parts or things near the wheels that dont fall under the 100mm clearance thingy?? (refering to the mudflaps coment)

Dave

marcusus · Postby **marcusus** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:00 pm

I'd say the coils are well worth the money over new springs. The fact that they're adjustable is a life saver. They're comfy when wound down to the softest setting, but nice and stiff if you wind them up for track work.

When I replaced my stock shocks with the super streets, the comfort level increase was huge, and that was with the shocks set about midway between soft and hard. Now that I've got them on full soft, it's even better, and I haven't noticed a compromise in handling when driving about normally on the streets.

matt9111 · Postby **matt9111** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:06 pm

Is there any difference in performance between the normal SS's and the Jap Spec ones?

philz · Postby **philz** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:14 pm

Jap spec would be for Japanese roads- which are smooth, and have no pot holes.

Aus spec would be, suited to our conditions, which as you know our roads are pretty shite.

So from that I would assume fairly firmer in the Jap ones, and softer spring rates on the Aus spec.

sliq · Postby **sliq** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:17 pm

ahhh shoot.

the areas where i drive, you would need a utility vehicle to manage those potholes. they are serious buckets.

marcusus · Postby **marcusus** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:33 pm

sliq wrote:ahhh shoot.

the areas where i drive, you would need a utility vehicle to manage those potholes. they are serious buckets.

Funnily enough, once you put super streets in, they smooth out a lot more. You can still feel the bumps, but you don't get jolted around on them nearly as much. All the connectivity with the road from before, but without the compressed spine. Can't go wrong.

philz · Postby **philz** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:53 pm

^Exactly- also note tein SS [super street] are a fairly soft coilover compared to FLEX or many other coilovers on the market, so even though the Jap spec SS might be firmer, they are still soft and comfortable.

If you can't see the point of buying Tein SS or you don't want to muck with the dampening but would like adjustable height.
There is also Tein Basic which are cheaper and are $1300ish for Aus spec, and $1000-$1100 for Jap spec.

I would always go for a coilover set, especially that they are designed to be together.
Rather than stock shocks with springs- eventually those shocks will wear out or bottom out, and you'll need to spend extra money on new shocks, which might even cost more than the tein setup, and may or may not suit each other.

Do it once do it right.