[REVIEW] Autoexe Ram Air Intake for NC

[JBT]

[Charlie Brown]

I'll say it again...........rubbbiiiiiissshhh. What has DSC got to do with throtlle response

Maybe it has something to do with the ECU. Have a look at Chris's commencts here:

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Mind you I have not problems with throttle response but then I don't have that fancy DSC thingy that would allow me to drive round the track without lifting off the throttle.

[CoffeeBoss]

I'll say it again...........rubbbiiiiiissshhh. What has DSC got to do with throttle response

Hmmm.... i wasn't going to grace this with a comment... after your responses in my thread on DSC, and now this, it seems your taking up the role of Thunderbird2's Protaganist? (i expected an NA or NB owner tbh). Oh, you've missed one btw: i'm surprised you haven't jumped on this thread to proclaim that coilovers no good.

I'm not here to start keyboard warrior style flame wars (no, really!), which is why i take the time to waffle on so people have some idea where i'm coming from. People have conflicting views and ideas and it is this that makes forums great, but a little advice from the words of Jemaine Clement: "be more constructive with your feedback"

Electronic throttle systems, by their very nature, introduce lag into a throttle system, whereby tapping the throttle results in a slight pause before the rpm increases. A bugbear of some of the writers of UK publication EVO, (who also report that Lotus don't have this problem). Very clearly evident in the Lexus IS200/Toyota Altezza (auto or manual), if you can find one, try it for me. Also evident in the DSC equipped NC, next time your at a club meet compare the initial throttle responses of your car against other NA's, NB's, NC's and share your findings.

maybe he has one of those fancy new Autoexe ram air intakes??

Yeah, i read on a forum somewhere that those things give you like eleventy billion more horsepowers.

... then I don't have that fancy DSC thingy that would allow me to drive round the track without lifting off the throttle.

Ha! You just rue the day when an NC using their DSC puts down a faster time than you (highly unlikely to be honest, and not much fun to boot). The fact that it is switchable makes it an excellent addition to the car. But that's another can of worms, as we all know

[JBT]

...Also evident in the DSC equipped NC, next time your at a club meet compare the initial throttle responses of your car against other NA's, NB's, NC's and share your findings..

I'm not living in a vacuum Tbird2. I owned an NA8 and have dríven a couple of NBs including SEs. The NC has as much, if not more, throttle response than those cars - DSC on or off.........IMHO of course.

[CoffeeBoss]

I'm not living in a vacuum Tbird2. I owned an NA8 and have dríven a couple of NBs including SEs. The NC has as much, if not more, throttle response than those cars - DSC on or off.........IMHO of course.

Then surely you must know what i'm talking about. Tickle the throttle in the NC and there is an ever so slight pause before the needle starts to climb. I'm not talking about speed/rate of climb of the RPM vs throttle input, i'm talking about the response.

It is there, and it's not there in, say, a 1990 NA6. And turning DSC will not make any difference, because the signal path is basically the same. It's the difference between an electronic throttle and a simple cable. That being said, my Lexus had a cable throttle but thanks to the ECU sitting between it and the throttle opening, the result was the same, TRC on or TRC off. Not as bad in the NC. Even less now with the new intake.

I feel the need to clarify something. I did not install the intake to liberate killowatts 'stolen' by the economies of mass producing cars. I look for a tangible difference in the experience i get from behind the wheel that improves the experience for me. It's sounds silly, but really that is what you want most from modifications. Because that's what makes driving the car more fun. If the feel of the car is from greater hp, great, but your really only going to get significant gains via forced induction or serious NA mods and tuning. If i wanted a car that produced big 'numbers' i would have purchased something else. I chose the MX5 because it was the most fun car i have dríven at the price. For me fun is not something to be deduced by 0-100kmh figures. I get more enjoyment from driving my car than Mum's Track R 350Z Roadster.

[JBT]

Then surely you must know what i'm talking about. Tickle the throttle in the NC and there is an ever so slight pause before the needle starts to climb..

We'll just have to agree to disagree then - I do not feel a pause in this car's response and I didn't feel it in the previous NC I owned.

[CoffeeBoss]

I know, i should leave well enough alone...

Have you ever dríven aforementioned cars with a modified intake/exhaust/flywheel? Surely you must have felt the difference under your right foot? I'm not talking in terms of the cars acceleration.

Alternatively: jump into any modern 'M' BMW and witness the different throttle maps available. All providing increasing levels of throttle response. It's not marketing, there really is a difference.

Incidentally, there are aftermarket electronic throttle controllers for the NC... but i'll be waiting until i get to test out a friends one before i even consider it.

[JBT]

No, haven't dríven an 'M' BMW. If I ever get the chance though......

Your original statement was "I'm talking stock for stock, and i'm talking NB vs an NC with DSC. Can't comment on the non-DSC NC, haven't dríven one". On this my previous comments stand.

But now you introduce "Have you ever dríven aforementioned cars with a modified intake/exhaust/flywheel? Surely you must have felt the difference under your right foot?" Yes, I've dríven modified MX-5s and yes they respond better - they should with the mods they had.....and I would love a set of Teins for the NC BTW

[Sailor]

..could be something to do with Pauls exit speed from the last corner onto the main straight I reckon .........the man has some serious scrotum size in corners

Nothing to do with exit speed if he slipstreams you for a couple of hundred metres on the straight and then pulls out and slips by

Going over older posts to improve my knowledge of the car.

Had to comment on this, after all, This is exactly why we slipstream...or attempt to break same if possible.

[wun911]

out of curiosity who has the Autoexe NB one and how is that CAI???

[philz]

sliq has it.

[sliq]

its good. i honestly didn't feel any difference with that and my old 90* bend one. just more bling with the cf, AND its legal.

[dualsyste]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-THqmb_tA8g

I like it, can only compare it to stock though. Excellent response, revs a lot nicer and sounds mental.

I don't like doing exhaust mods on any of my cars so it's perfect... because if I drive stealth spec it makes no additional noise whatsoever besides the suction noise you hear in the video on idle.