iPhone 3G vs. Audiolink, Round 1, FIGHT!

[corners]

1. I said wall charger, not a USB connector
2. Friggin heck, were not in caveman land. Everybody else's bluetooth has full functionality out of the box. Plus how are you going to update it - send it to Apple. There goes a few weeks of your life. Copyright? None of us have any MP3s do we?
3. Minimum of $700 IS expensive for ANY 'phone'. It was touted by Apple as being inexpensive.
4. Insurance and warranties are limited. Also only usually last around a year. Plus you need to be on a contract plan to get any insurance. Insurance costs around $8 a month, thus you need to pay $100 pa insurance on your phone!
5. It is huge. You are comparing a besser block with a brick.
6. Apple suck. If there is no stock, why launch it?

So, you work at an Optus store?

They all use a USB Connector, the voltage therefore is not different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB it is a standard interface!
your still stuck in the frame of mind thinking its a phone. its a pda / smart device. It does more then most phones!!
Insurance isnt that limited you can pay as little as $5 or as much as $10 per month. Much like any other insurance.
So your saying its huge? Have you looked at a blackberry or N95?

No I dont work at an optus store or for any telecommunications company.....

[Artificial Life]

1. I said wall charger, not a USB connector
2. Friggin heck, were not in caveman land. Everybody else's bluetooth has full functionality out of the box. Plus how are you going to update it - send it to Apple. There goes a few weeks of your life. Copyright? None of us have any MP3s do we?
3. Minimum of $700 IS expensive for ANY 'phone'. It was touted by Apple as being inexpensive.
4. Insurance and warranties are limited. Also only usually last around a year. Plus you need to be on a contract plan to get any insurance. Insurance costs around $8 a month, thus you need to pay $100 pa insurance on your phone!
5. It is huge. You are comparing a besser block with a brick.
6. Apple suck. If there is no stock, why launch it?

To clear this up, the included wall charger provides a standard, powered USB port, ignore comments about different voltage, chargers etc. This is exactly the same as the wall charger you can buy from Apple for an iPod, only the iPhone included one is smaller.

I have no idea what you're on about with point 2 - you can update iPod / iPhone firmware with a copy of iTunes on your computer, it's hardly a big deal.

It's not huge, it's actually quite slim for a smartphone (compare to the N95 or Blackberry in the same weight range - good info on infosyncworld.com). For me, it means not carrying phone + mp3 player which are larger combined.

My cost is covered by work + tax deduction, insurance is $5 / month. So, none of that bothers me at all. Even if it did, the 16Gb iPod Touch is $500, so would you pay $500 for your mp3 player + $200 for your phone? - I'm not sure how good the $200 phones are atm, probably ok, but probably not as good.

Current production has just been raised to 40 million iPhones / month, so you can hardly say they're not trying. There's also a bit of a lag built up because the original iPhone was pulled off the market a few months ago in the US - creating a backlog. Since those phones cost money to produce, the longer they hold up distribution to build up inventory, the more each phone has to cost to cover the capital outlay and the more risk they incur in holding inventory.....

If you must be irrational about it, at least admit to yourself you're being irrational ;)

[99MXV]

Ummm errrrr.

I personally believe the 'STOCK ISSUE' on Iphones will last all the way up until about December 20th..

THEN you will see a bunch released to pre-paid and outright.

Call me cynical, but I'll bet my left nut I am right.

[bruce]

[AJ]

*polishes his N95 screen & sniggers at all the Apple Wankers*

[meanmx]

*polishes his N95 screen & sniggers at all the Apple Wankers*

I wouldn't buy an N95 even when the iphone wasn't available . Seriously though, everyone has different tastes to cater too and that's why all phones are different. I choose an HTC 3600i over the N95 because the N95 was just too basic even though it has some great features and now I have upgraded to the iphone3g. In all honesty the iphone is way behind the Windows Mobile HTC in some areas although in others it is incredibly far ahead of it. At this stage though the iphone is definately my favourite and I am not traditionally an apple kind of guy. Lets face it, if there was a perfect phone then we would all have it and there would be no competition

Ben

[bruce]

GO THE NOKIA 3315 !

[CapitalF]

Aussie 3G version is a POS;
-needs a specific 3G wall charger as voltages are difft to all other models
-bluetooth will not transfer files, MP3s (itunes arrrrrgggghhhh!)
-overpriced - $700 for 8gb, $900 for 16gb
-Can't imagine trying to repair one (if you break the screen you may as well bin it)
-can only get them on an expensive contract (Optus up here have no stock, Voda very limited)
-it is bloody HUGE

People who buy one deserve the pain for falling for the hype.

Bruce - you're kidding right?

-All phones need a charger - the last two Nokias Ive owned were different to each other and I'm impressed that the one included with the iphone can just plug into my windows box and charge (USB) whilst I upload /sync/update firmware/backup - a single cable with adaptor!
-Overpriced?? Um mine cost me no different per month than the previous phone with call charges. If you tried to buy a new Nokia /Blackberry/similar device outright they'd be around the same on that basis too.
-Repair issues? Tell me about other ph brands (like Nokia/Samsung etc that would be any quicker... Neither manuf have fixed any phone quicker than 7 days for me - ever. And correct me if Im wrong but a broken screen isnt typically an Apple / Nokia / manufacturer repair process anyway.
-Our Business has bought some outright and I walked into a Telstra shop and bought one with no delay on a contract with $0 upfront. You get what you pay for and I want the best coverage nationally with enough data to cover my needs. No stock problem! I only "bought" after Telstra updated their poor initial offerings.
-You sound a bit obsessed with size Bruce :-) It fits in the same pocket/s my old phone fitted in and I don't see a need to visit the gym over the few extra grams involved and guess what - when you do want to read email / view photos / web pages /enter text that larger screen is just great!

Any other criticisms of the device that Im assuming you haven't used?

My experience has been very positive and am truly impressed with the interfaces it has. Wifi where I need it, 3G elsewhere, Bluetooth works with my Nokia carphone kit, I have a FM transmitter /charger cable and feeds the FM car radio for listening to audiobooks - even cuts out when the ph calls and redirects the call thru to the Bluetooth car ph kit! That's before I add the benefit of GMail /Work email and calendars being at my fingertips. Best thing I haven't spent extra money on in a long time!! It is what the others have been trying to be for some time and the Blackberry users are changing in droves.

Edit - I forgot - its an iPod too with 16GB storage and I paid no extra for that either! And u r kidding

Peter

[CoffeeBoss]

Heh heh.... it's amazing what a bit of marketing can do for a device.

I opened this thread with plans to contribute to the title, since i have tested my new iPhone with the NC's factory ipod connector my car came with, and have found a similar experience. The iPhone prompts you upon connection to ask if you would like to switch to aircraft mode to reduce interference, which i thought was a nice touch. But, like the Audiolink connector which was designed for iPods, it does not have the extra pin required for charging the iPhone. I have a iPhone charger that runs of the lighter though, and an iPod in the car most of the time anyhow. So i'm happy that the device is at least partially supported, for those times when i leave the iPod at home.

Meanwhile, to all the naysayers who are so quick to jump in and start with the flaming already: like Artificial Life, i am not an Apple fanboy, and the iPhone is the second Apple product i have owned after being given an iPod. I echo Artificial Life's sentiments completely - the iTunes/iPod-iPhone combination, once you have used it, is THE best music/AV/portable management system around. I have a terabyte drive for my music collection which is slowly being filled with my CD's, and being able to walk up to my PC and easily select any album or artist or song and sync it for playing in the car in less than a minute is brilliant. Finding and selecting CD's for the car when you have over 2000 in your collection can be time consuming , let me assure you.

Meanwhile, to the iPhone itself. I have been somewhat of an 'early adopter' of smartphones since their inception and have had a string of Nokia and Sony Ericsson devices prior to the iPhone, the most recent two being the M600i and the P900i before that. Unlike what so many people seem to think, i did not choose the iPhone with the intention of buying into some trendy clique or fad. Rather, i judge each device and the way it is designed on it's own merits. Once you have spent time with an iPhone, you tend to realise, like i did, that the combination of a multitouch screen and a fast processor means not that it's great for flicking through album covers, but that it is actually any phone you want it to be since the interface constantly shapes itself to the task at hand. The result is not only the easiest phone i have ever owned both to customise and use, but also the fastest. It outstrips my M600i in every department. I thought i would miss the 'qwerty' keyboard, but in actual fact, once you get used to the software keyboard and Apples predictive text system, you find yourself touch typing much faster than you could with small hardware keys.

Anyhoo, just as some people are easily bought by the hype, so it seems are some easily caught up in the anti-hype-hype

On the topic of 'turn-by-turn' directions on the iPhone, i have read recently that the SDK for the next software update has lines of code which suggest this is coming. And that of course is the other great thing with the iPhone - with the release of the SDK, the software possibilities mean it's now far outstripping the competition in the capability stakes.

Hence, i carry a phone with is also a software dyno, games machine, emailer, Facebooker AND a spirit level

[ringo]

oh dear... it seems somene has started the Mac Vs PC debate...

how abouts everyone who is in the red corner accept that there are others out there that are in the blue corner and we stop having a go at everyone... sheesh, it's not like we're Renault drivers or anything !



ringo