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Postby Mr Morlock » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:41 pm

I thought it was a joke. What is the advantage? If you park closer to another vehicle in a car park that merely gives the other driver or passenger(s) a better chance of damaging your bodywork. The negatives outweigh any advantage- if you can even think of a plus.The engineering challenges are significant just for a wacky idea. If there was truly merit in these ideas they would be in regular use and they aren't.

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Postby fastfreddygassit » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:33 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:I thought it was a joke. What is the advantage? If you park closer to another vehicle in a car park that merely gives the other driver or passenger(s) a better chance of damaging your bodywork. The negatives outweigh any advantage- if you can even think of a plus.The engineering challenges are significant just for a wacky idea. If there was truly merit in these ideas they would be in regular use and they aren't.

Are you for real dude?
There IS true merit in the idea. It just takes someone with nous and initiative (and a bit of cash) to do it. Ask meanmx, who tinkered with a kit for scissor doors.
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Postby TieNN89 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:35 pm

lol

ever thought about suicide doors

that would help you getting out i reckon

with as much attention

but still you'll still get the WTF attention

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Postby SuperMazdaKart » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:10 pm

suicide doors.. for the rear seated passengers in the mx5 eh.


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Postby marcusus » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:35 pm

SM wrote:Maybe you should try it sometime, easier than you would think, one hand on the rollbar, one on the windscreen pillar, a little jump and your done.

I've often contemplated this, but I'm always thrown by the sideways twist you'd need to actually get in under the steering wheel. Or are you just talking about jumping onto the seat, and not actually jumping into the sitting position, as it were?

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Postby Mr Morlock » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:02 pm

cannot see any merit at all- just to be different I reckon and that expensive super car is hardly mainstream. If the merit was there then why not any serious uptake- we know why.

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Postby Alex » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:27 am

marcusus wrote:
SM wrote:Maybe you should try it sometime, easier than you would think, one hand on the rollbar, one on the windscreen pillar, a little jump and your done.

I've often contemplated this, but I'm always thrown by the sideways twist you'd need to actually get in under the steering wheel. Or are you just talking about jumping onto the seat, and not actually jumping into the sitting position, as it were?

not that hard, just place one leg on each side of the steering wheel and your in
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Postby meanmx » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:59 am

Mr Morlock wrote:cannot see any merit at all- just to be different I reckon and that expensive super car is hardly mainstream. If the merit was there then why not any serious uptake- we know why.


I shake my head at you Mr Morlock. Remember not everyone is a member of your Mazda did it perfect club.

I did a fair bit of research into scissor doors a little while ago as I am a member of the autosalon club :D . In fact I went so far as to buy a kit and try to fit it. Here's the story...I bought an autoloc kit from the US about a year ago and tried fitting them to my car. It was the weld on type and I got most of the way through fitting the passenger side one before realising there just isn't the room in the front guard to use this particular kit. The autoloc kit I bought was very very high quality and it was built in such a way as to eliminate all the complaints that people have stated thus far, and the only problem was that it was too thick. Much better suited to a bigger car.

Now after failing to fit this kit I started looking around at alternatives. First alternative is the cheap kit. This kit you can pick up for around $1300 from retailers in Australia or much cheaper overseas. The problems with it are that it is relatively flimsy. This is the one that waves in the air as it is unstable, although having said that, it wont fall on you or anything so it is safe in that respect. It should bolt straight on to your current bolt holes and I believe that the alignment issues are caused by not loctiting the adjustment bolts

Second option is a new skinnier autoloc kit from the US. Haven't seen this personally but if it is anything like the one that I had then it will be of a very high quality. Will cost you about 2 grand delivered and I can't remember if it is bolt on or not

Third option is by a company called scissor-doors.com who do a bolt on kit for the MX5. I know nothing about the quality or how good a fit it is but it costs about $800US before delivery

I'm sure there are others but I looked around a little while ago. I think the scissor doors look brilliant on the MX5 and it really suits the sports car lines. It will stop you hitting the car next to you when you park but you may not find it any easier to get out of. And if you don't like attention these are definately not the go. They stick out like dogs balls :lol: . I had a mate with scissor doors on his Skyline and he got pulled over by the cops for a check. He managed to get out of the car without lifting the door up but then the cop for some reason opened the door himself. When he couldn't open it more than 30 degrees he thought it was damaged and turned to my mate and said "Oh yeah been drifting have we?" :lol:

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Postby bruce » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:39 am

Wow, those kits are expensive. And that is before you do all the labour yourself fitting them.

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Postby redwards » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:23 pm

Lambo photos but no scissor'd 5 photos... sigh.

This little puppy was on ebay either late last year or early this year. I think the scissors look pretty cool, but certainly not my cup'o'tea.

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Postby AJ » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:26 pm

:shock: that's THE fugliest body kit I've ever seen :? ........I'm all for personalisation of a car to your own taste, but man, that guys taste in in his/her arse!! :lol:

PS. I wonder what function the cheese cutters on the rear serve? :lol:
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Postby Okibi » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:36 pm

AJ wrote:...PS. I wonder what function the cheese cutters on the rear serve? :lol:


Lots of MX-5s have part of the rear bumper cut out because it acts like a bit of a sail. I think gurgler would be a well known Aussie example.
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Postby RG.net » Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:38 pm

bpt4w wrote:ok i was very tired from work and playing WOW (yes i'm one of them) so i spelled it wrong (scissor doors) hope you feel warm and fuzzy :) .

Yes have thought of changing my seats to something else , but at 6'1 i didn't fit in the car properly with the standard seats (long body)so i did the standard sparco sprint change which put me another 2 inchs lower so i can now see the lights when i stop (used to almost be eye level with the top of the windscreen) . Have thought about changing to the non adjustable seats bolted to the floor which will put me even lower in the car and allow my helmet to be under the roll bar during racing , but all this is beside the point that if the car isn't useable as a daily driver for me (atm) and even with the low bolster seats it will still require a fair bit of gymnastics to get into the car (atm i can just step over the door into the car with the top down) with the top up or the hard top on.


your about my height, i have Corba Monaco S seats, and a cusco 4 point rollbar which pushes the seat a fair way forward, i can still manage to get out and fit a helmet under the softtop. maybe try those seats, or just put up with the inconvience of getting out of the mx-5.
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Postby PUR157 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:07 pm

BPT you sound very committed... so in that case... best of luck with your venture then! :mrgreen:

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Postby redwards » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:02 pm

Here's a new idea: suicide doors!
Suicide (aka front opening) doors only lost favour because of idiots who opened their doors into traffic, and when a car hit the door, it would cut the person in half rather than rip the door off. Now how often do you hear of people's doors being hit??

The (apparent) benefit with suicides is it's easier to get in and out with the door opened less.

Engineering wise it may be easier - I'm not sure. Instead of massive weight loading on the hinges at the front, it's the saem weight load as on normal doors - but the hinge is a the B pillar rather than at the A pillar. I don't know how strong the B pillars are.

(Or even scissor suicide doors!!)
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