Braided Brake Lines? worth it?

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Postby 16bit » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:38 pm

on a track the only thing I could imaging that may skew that result is the amount of heat that is around the line. If there were to heat the line to the level it would be in the wheel arch while the rotor is at 800 odd degrees after a hard application it may vary but for the street that test is probably pretty accurate. Like I said the reason you would use a stainless line is for the added precaution that it is less likely to fail.
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Postby GP » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:07 pm

In some circumstances braided stainless are more likely to fail. If they are pinched in an accident for example the little silicon hose inside can be damaged very easily. This was the reason they were Illegal many years ago.
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Postby CT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:46 pm

Problem here is that the lines are only one component of the system. When building the ultimate brakes, you need to get every 1% improvement from each component. If those lines help to contribute to 1 less metre in a braking zone every lap of a race, then after 5 laps, that's one car length you are better off. These discussions are barely relevant as even if you believe eveything autospeed summises, they are better than rubber - plus, they are more resistant to damage. Plus, with better fluid, a stiffer MC and better pads and calipers, you might end up with 10% better brakes......but only if you use them properly. The only person who can judge if they are worth it, is you.
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Postby bigdog » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:12 pm

I'll give you my objective opinion after I fit mine... replacing 2002 vintage rubber lines with 150K of use with braided lines first chance I get to go to the shed without freezing my... :D
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Re: Braided Brake Lines? worth it?

Postby bigdog » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:47 pm

Well, first 100km since fitting the braided lines and I can't feel any difference at all. The original lines were not in bad shape cosmetically, but have done 149,000km. If the new ones make any difference it would have to be measured at less than around 2% - if it were anywhere near 5% I would notice it driving. As has been said here, if you are building a track car you would want every percentage point you could find in braking efficiency, but for a road car these are probably just bling :D A new set of tyres would have a much greater effect on braking than these. If your lines are really old and cracked though then you could fit these as replacements and I'm sure they will improve your brakes... but new rubber lines would probably be just as effective and possibly cheaper. My 10c 8)
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Re: Braided Brake Lines? worth it?

Postby Caffeine » Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:13 pm

bigdog wrote:Well, first 100km since fitting the braided lines and I can't feel any difference at all. The original lines were not in bad shape cosmetically, but have done 149,000km. If the new ones make any difference it would have to be measured at less than around 2% - if it were anywhere near 5% I would notice it driving. As has been said here, if you are building a track car you would want every percentage point you could find in braking efficiency, but for a road car these are probably just bling :D A new set of tyres would have a much greater effect on braking than these. If your lines are really old and cracked though then you could fit these as replacements and I'm sure they will improve your brakes... but new rubber lines would probably be just as effective and possibly cheaper. My 10c 8)


I need to fit my braided lines, my current brakes are shocking even after repeated bleeding :(

I think I need to take them to someone who's confident enough to bleed them at the ABS block too, as there's no air bubbles in the caliper ends...
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