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NC swaybars queries

Postby lucifuge » Wed May 28, 2008 3:40 pm

I'm trying to research replacement front and rear sways for my 2007 NC.

I've sussed out some adjustable Whitelines, but need to know the cars current standard front and rear measurements in order to see how much stiffer the gain will be. What are they at the front and rear measurements in mm?

Also, very keen to hear from anyone who has front + rear Whitelines in their 2006+ NC, and opinions on handling after having them fitted.

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Postby Garry » Wed May 28, 2008 3:56 pm

I installed some hollow bars from MX5PartsUK onto Kuntry Kuzzins NC. He was pretty happy with the outcome. I think there's a post about them on the forum somewhere. The new bars were heaps lighter than the factory bars and were beautifully made.
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Postby Charlie Brown » Wed May 28, 2008 5:24 pm

Stock bars are 21.1mm front and 12mm rear

Whiteline adjustables are 24mm front and 16mm rear
Set on softest settings (ie same arm length as the standard bar) the fronts are 71% stiffer and the rears 215%

When I spoke to Whiteline they couldn’t tell me how much stiffer the bars were on the other adjustable positions.

On the road I’m running the soft (71% stiffer) position on the front and the middle position on the rears.
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Postby lucifuge » Wed May 28, 2008 6:15 pm

Thanks Charlie Brown

Would you say these two would reduce body roll significantly?


Charlie Brown wrote:Stock bars are 21.1mm front and 12mm rear

Whiteline adjustables are 24mm front and 16mm rear
Set on softest settings (ie same arm length as the standard bar) the fronts are 71% stiffer and the rears 215%

When I spoke to Whiteline they couldn’t tell me how much stiffer the bars were on the other adjustable positions.

On the road I’m running the soft (71% stiffer) position on the front and the middle position on the rears.

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Postby lucifuge » Wed May 28, 2008 8:52 pm

...also, those adjustments you mention 71% + 215% are massive changes. Does that make the car skiddish or chattery? Is the car still predictable? There must be some negatives, what are they?

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Postby Charlie Brown » Wed May 28, 2008 9:37 pm

Reduces body roll remarkably.
Allows quick changes in direction while maintaining maximum control.

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Slightly and that's only slightly, firmer ride. You'll be lucky to notice a difference.

I think this is THE best mod for the NC.
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Postby lucifuge » Wed May 28, 2008 10:08 pm

On top of these two, does a front tower brace add anything?

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Postby JBT » Wed May 28, 2008 10:24 pm

No, it already has one.
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Postby lucifuge » Wed May 28, 2008 10:26 pm

JBT wrote:No, it already has one.


Well it also already has sway bars.

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Postby JBT » Wed May 28, 2008 10:29 pm

OK, but a fixed geometric brace is a fixed geometric brace.
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Postby lucifuge » Wed May 28, 2008 10:41 pm

Just out of interest, with the sways fitted; if less body roll is generated does that mean you are likely to have the DSC cut in less because the turn is will be smoother/more predictable?

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Postby minix3 » Thu May 29, 2008 12:25 am

I had custom sways made for my car. No problems with the front but the back was 18mm and snapped the bolts which were welded to the subframe and bent the brackets. Ended up drilling out the bolts and putting in high tensile ones with polyurethane bushes.
Big difference in the way the car handless.
Depending on how thick you want the cars, you should also consider changing the rear bolts.

The car is a tad louder when going over speed humps though.

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Postby MxJadeMonkey » Thu May 29, 2008 12:55 am

I had those bars made for him, I also fitted the rear one, The bolt snapped due to my over tightening, not that the bar was to big, I have done a few NC's now with 16mm and 18mm rear bars, I have since sorted out the issue with him.

lesson learnt for me about rear NC sway bolts.
car should handle great now though after being repaired.
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Postby minix3 » Thu May 29, 2008 3:06 am

MxJadeMonkey wrote:I had those bars made for him, I also fitted the rear one, The bolt snapped due to my over tightening, not that the bar was to big, I have done a few NC's now with 16mm and 18mm rear bars, I have since sorted out the issue with him.

lesson learnt for me about rear NC sway bolts.
car should handle great now though after being repaired.


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Postby lucifuge » Thu May 29, 2008 8:52 am

anyone?

lucifuge wrote:Just out of interest, with the sways fitted; if less body roll is generated does that mean you are likely to have the DSC cut in less because the turn is will be smoother/more predictable?


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