Fatty's dummies guide on: How to install a Stebel air horn

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Postby Mr Morlock » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:40 pm

Sliq you will have no problem with the beer bribe but the catch and there is always a catch is..... how much beer and they only get it after the job is done.

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Postby sliq » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:56 pm

Mr Morlock i'm not too concerned about getting the job done.. it's about the effort that counts and having a fool around :lol:
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Postby Hammer » Wed May 07, 2008 10:33 pm

Well after having the Stebel horn in my boot for over a month, I finally managed to get time to go to Mania and have it installed.

Luckily I got Mania to do it. Where it would normally go in a NB, the Stebel Nautilus Compact wouldn't fit in my SP. The intercooler robbed most of the free space behind the bumper where the OEM horms are located, which is where the Stebel would have gone in.

Instead, David had to remove my bumper assembly. Then spend a few minutes trying to find a suitable spot where it would not get in the way of the bumper and be relatively out of the weather. After a few minutes searching, we managed to find a spot just above the right hand side fog light.

If you don't have to remove the bumper, I would say it's a DIY fitting. (David says, on the NA, NB (except SP & SE), and NC, you won't have to remove the bumper bar).

The wiring is very simple, one goes to the OEM horn wiring, the other is an earth wire. David says, the relay that comes with the horn isn't necessary (he has fitted a few now w/out the relay with no issues), but if you're concern, it can be fitted.

This Nautilus Compact is anything but compact when it comes to the way it sounds. It sounds like the air horn of a Ferrari. There is no lag. The sound is immediate, from the moment you hit that horn button.

I'm very happy. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Postby bruce » Sat May 10, 2008 1:14 pm

Simple test whether you need the relay - wire it up with the existing wiring, hold the horn down for 15 seconds. If it blows the fuse, you need the relay. If it keeps on honking, you're fine.

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Postby JBT » Sat May 10, 2008 5:12 pm

Best to use a 20 amp fuse (vs OEM 15 amp) with the Stebel. Horn and brake lights are on the same fuse.
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Postby sliq » Mon May 12, 2008 10:17 pm

JBT wrote:Best to use a 20 amp fuse (vs OEM 15 amp) with the Stebel. Horn and brake lights are on the same fuse.


yeah, i blew my tail lights fuse and horn when i hit both at once... :oops: gotta go change that fuse before someone runs up my tail :shock:
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Postby veecee » Thu May 29, 2008 5:50 pm

Another dummy question... If you don't take off the front bar or hoist the car up, how do you access the horn? Through the intake opening in the front bar? Can you access all the bolts etc properly through this? I have a NB8A. Thanks.

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Postby Fatty » Thu May 29, 2008 7:14 pm

veecee wrote:Another dummy question... If you don't take off the front bar or hoist the car up, how do you access the horn? Through the intake opening in the front bar? Can you access all the bolts etc properly through this? I have a NB8A. Thanks.


i would have thought you could just reach in from the top. you may have a radiator cowl in the way, so you can't see the horn at the moment. just remove the cowl first.

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Postby Hammer » Thu May 29, 2008 9:22 pm

veecee wrote:Another dummy question... If you don't take off the front bar or hoist the car up, how do you access the horn? Through the intake opening in the front bar? Can you access all the bolts etc properly through this? I have a NB8A. Thanks.


Inside the engine bay, the aluminium cover piece around the bonnet latch (between the headlights) was removed to access the OEM horns in my NB8B.
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Postby Mr Morlock » Thu May 29, 2008 11:51 pm

NB8B You can quite readily get access to the stock horns through front bumper grille opening- kneel in front insert arm - easy peasy. Position mirror at base if you want to survey the space. I imagine removing alu cover plate even easier access but it appeared to me that it was rivetted so I preferred to leave it untouched.

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Postby veecee » Fri May 30, 2008 12:56 am

Thanks for all the answers. I'll give this install a shot with the much needed help of a mate!

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Postby sliq » Fri May 30, 2008 1:11 am

Mr Morlock wrote:NB8B You can quite readily get access to the stock horns through front bumper grille opening- kneel in front insert arm - easy peasy. Position mirror at base if you want to survey the space. I imagine removing alu cover plate even easier access but it appeared to me that it was rivetted so I preferred to leave it untouched.


Mr Morlock is correct.

Hammer is also correct - but his is an SP :P
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Postby Hammer » Fri May 30, 2008 6:39 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:NB8B You can quite readily get access to the stock horns through front bumper grille opening- kneel in front insert arm - easy peasy. Position mirror at base if you want to survey the space. I imagine removing alu cover plate even easier access but it appeared to me that it was rivetted so I preferred to leave it untouched.


Not if you have an SP. The intercooler blocks any access in the gap. AFAIK, the aluminium cover piece isn't riveted to the frame. So whatever it is riveted to, comes with the cover once you unscrew the nuts attaching it to the frame.

I'd would have gone and checked my car to confirm, but it's tucked away in the secured basement carpark @ work. :)
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Postby MINX » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:32 pm

On SE - cover is riveted to something!
Doesnt come off when you undue the 4 bolts.
Cant access from top - any other suggestions for SE?
Surely the front bar doesnt have to come off.
What if the horn is just mounted in clear space behind drivers side headlight - but where do i get the wires to hook it up?

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Postby cshaks » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:29 am

Ordered mine, eagerly awaiting arrival so that I can fit it!
Cheers tons for the guide Fatty! It should be a great help, think I will be going with the relay method.........

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