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Postby wun911 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:48 pm

errrm with 5 people on the list can the GB go ahead?
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Postby tk421 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:01 pm

Benny wrote:
wun911 wrote:Im also interested...

Who is goin to install these butterfly braces?? (I live in melbourne) Whereas most of the other buyers live in sydney.... :?

And how much do you think it will cost to insall these things?? (miata mania webste doent say)

Only 2 downsides I can think of 17 kg of added weight... and a very permant addition to the car.

Aslo how low is your car benny? Im thinking of lowering my car by about an inch all round...

After these questions are answered put me on the list!!!


My car is about as low as you can go and still be streetable.
From memory, it is about 2" or so lower than normal, but as I have adjustable coil overs, it's easy to raise or lower the car.
I'm hoping the brace will help with the axle tramp I'm getting when I do a fast take-off.
17kg is not so bad, especially as it is right on the bottom of the car, so it should lower the C of G just a little.


Is it easy to install yourself?
Surely it's only a few bolts that hold it on.


As you have an NB8B based car Benny I would just fit the frame rails If I were you as you already have an X brace on the car.

Its a bit of work to fit one, I did a big write up on the install process for mine ages ago. If you use the google site search on this site you should find it pretty easy if you search for the phrase butterfly. I had Mania fit mine and it was about 2.5 hours work for sure. It required the assitance of an LFH (the BFH's brother :P ) and the carpet had to be lifted up at the sides for the drilling etc. You could do it at home but you would be brave. The assistance of a hoist is highly recommended!

Marcus has largely already covered it but yes I love my brace :D 8) .

I'm not a fan of scuttle shake and If I hadn't been able to do something about it I probably would have sold the car for a later model.

I have 138 kw atw which is quite a bit less than you I think. However It felt like it improved grip levels overall when I put it on (mid corner and otherwise). The car does not axle tramp, just spins them up - though MUCH less now I have new rubber. Since I have had the new adrenalins on it's quite simply on rails now.

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Postby Mactype » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:28 am

wun911 wrote:errrm with 5 people on the list can the GB go ahead?


umm..... Sliq where art thou

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Postby metris » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:40 am

MXkal wrote:I built my own frame rails this arvo. They are pretty much same as FM but without the triangles cut out. Their weight is barley anything, probably like 2kg each. The most thing i noticed about installing them is that my non-lsd diff wont spin 1 wheel around a corner now it will just drift. Also there is no squeeks from my hardtop and the overall car feels a fair bit more rigid. I will get some pics up probably tomorow then start designing the center brace for it. Best $45 i spent on my mx5 :mrgreen:

okay MXkal, time for some snappy snappy (photos) and a tutorial!!!
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Postby Garry » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:59 am

Are you going into production MXkal? $45 sounds much more reasonable than the price of buying and shipping from the US.
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Postby metris » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:04 am

HAHA I'll buy your ebook!!! :mrgreen: :lol: hehehe
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Postby End User » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:55 pm

I'd like to register my interest in this Group Buy. But can anyone tell me if it will restrict me from installing an aftermarket exhaust further down the track?

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Postby MXkal » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:03 pm

im keen to go into production. The ones i made for my car were just to hide the frame rails because of a stupid forklift driver at the smash repairs. If i do go into production i will definately not be selling them for $45 a set hah. I used alot of material i already had. Prob sell the frame rails for 220 a set. I just need to design a center part to brace them together. I cant do that atmo because my custom exhaust is in the way haha
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Postby MXkal » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:06 pm

Also il get some pictures tomorow of them. I just havent been bothered putting the mx up on my hoist because the feet of the hoist dont fit under it properly and you have to lift the car up 4mm by hand to slip the feet under it haha
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Postby metris » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:16 am

Sounds good MXkal, keep us posted!
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Postby sliq » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:26 am

i'll resend Flyin' Miata another email later today.. so we have six for the group buy?
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Postby Alex » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:19 pm

well if everyone sticks with it we do :P
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Postby pepejesus » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:34 pm

I'd be in...

...but I imported one for myself about 2 months ago!

Haven't got around to having it fitted yet. It ended up costing me about $AU750 all said and done, which was significantly cheaper than MX5Mania, especially as I'm in Perth.

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Postby MXkal » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:46 pm

Hi guys just an update, I have now taken a few pics of my frame rails. If i get some good response to these i will start production. Also if yous want i can lighten them by punching 40mm holes along the bottom kinda like the triangles with FM rails although they wont be as solid and only be a few grams lighter. They will come with all mounting bolts and i will also do installs.

http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc50 ... e%20rails/

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Postby wun911 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:42 pm

Thanks sliq please set my name in concrete. When its all good pm me your bank details.

I saw the pics, it looks quite neat wish I had the skills to make stuff myself.
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