Flyin Miata Butterfly Brace Frame?

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Postby sliq » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:10 am

at the mo, doesn't look like there are many forumites interested :?
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Postby Benny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:34 am

I'm interested too!

I haven't gone back and read through all the posts, but my only worry is that it will hang too low on my lowered car.
I'm happy to raise it by 5mm or so, but I don't want it looking like a 4WD just because of the brace.
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Postby Mactype » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:47 am

your worried about 5mm.... I'd just let it scrape over the speed bumps lol.

If Benny comes on board we've got 5 interested Sliq, we were only after 7 in the first instance so surely its worth chasing up the freight on the 5.

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Postby wun911 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:13 pm

Im also interested...

Who is goin to install these butterfly braces?? (I live in melbourne) Whereas most of the other buyers live in sydney.... :?

And how much do you think it will cost to insall these things?? (miata mania webste doent say)

Only 2 downsides I can think of 17 kg of added weight... and a very permant addition to the car.

Aslo how low is your car benny? Im thinking of lowering my car by about an inch all round...

After these questions are answered put me on the list!!!
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Postby Benny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:15 pm

wun911 wrote:Im also interested...

Who is goin to install these butterfly braces?? (I live in melbourne) Whereas most of the other buyers live in sydney.... :?

And how much do you think it will cost to insall these things?? (miata mania webste doent say)

Only 2 downsides I can think of 17 kg of added weight... and a very permant addition to the car.

Aslo how low is your car benny? Im thinking of lowering my car by about an inch all round...

After these questions are answered put me on the list!!!


My car is about as low as you can go and still be streetable.
From memory, it is about 2" or so lower than normal, but as I have adjustable coil overs, it's easy to raise or lower the car.
I'm hoping the brace will help with the axle tramp I'm getting when I do a fast take-off.
17kg is not so bad, especially as it is right on the bottom of the car, so it should lower the C of G just a little.


Is it easy to install yourself?
Surely it's only a few bolts that hold it on.
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Postby MXkal » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:24 pm

I have to make a pair of stainless frame rails to get a blue slip done then after that il end up building the center section to join the 2 rails together. You have to drill holes in your floorpan, get 2 people, one to hold brace and other to put bolts through and get a nut on. I will probably get these made this week sometime and take some pics when im done.
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Postby wun911 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:49 pm

In the group buy is there an option to get just the rails?
(should be about $350 cheaper than the full butterfly)

There are a couple of reasons why I dont want the middle part of the brace:

1 From my understanding the middle part is the most difficult and anoying part to install.

2 The rails are only 6kg of added weight compared to 17 kg for the full kit!

3 I have an NB (2001) which probably doesnt need as much bracing as an NA.
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Postby MXkal » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:51 pm

im still considering about making frame rails out of 5083 aluminium and without the little triangles cut out. These should weigh alot less than stainless versions
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Postby wun911 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:16 pm

Is this group buy still on sliq?

I think we have the 6-7 pplz you need to get the ball rolling??
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Postby sliq » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:19 pm

who are the interested parties again? i've sort of lost track with this thread.. sorry guys, heaps of paper work to do before the firm closes :frown:
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Postby wun911 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:49 am

Im happy to put my name down on the list...

I figure at 530 its a good deal caus buyin the rails alone is 500...
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Postby MasterZ » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:08 am

maybe we should move this topic to the for sale section, cause i only noticed the topic now
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Postby marcusus » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:20 pm

sliq wrote:who are the interested parties again? i've sort of lost track with this thread.. sorry guys, heaps of paper work to do before the firm closes :frown:

1.Sliq
2.Mactype
3.SM
4.marcusus

That was the latest list of 100%'s I think. Keep on adding if people are keen.

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Postby wun911 » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:53 am

1.Sliq
2.Mactype
3.SM
4.marcusus
5. Wun911
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Postby MXkal » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:06 pm

I built my own frame rails this arvo. They are pretty much same as FM but without the triangles cut out. Their weight is barley anything, probably like 2kg each. The most thing i noticed about installing them is that my non-lsd diff wont spin 1 wheel around a corner now it will just drift. Also there is no squeeks from my hardtop and the overall car feels a fair bit more rigid. I will get some pics up probably tomorow then start designing the center brace for it. Best $45 i spent on my mx5 :mrgreen:
Overkill is an understatement.


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