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Choosing right offsets

Postby EJ081 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:02 pm

Hey guys im new on this forum and ill be purchasing a black NB8 mx5 soon and im looking for nice wheels with nice offsets. I was thinkin of ssr sp1 in 16x7 on the front and 16x8 at the rear with +35 all around what do you guys think of that combination..

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Postby StanTheMan » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:09 pm

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Postby Boost » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:12 pm

hes from NSW Stan. :mrgreen:
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Postby Babalouie » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:24 pm

Well...to answer the question, it really does depend on what you're after.

Ie, whether the \"right\" offset is one that dishes the wheel and pokes it right to the edges of the wheelarches, or one that looks normal :D
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Postby StanTheMan » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:26 pm

OK offset is great so is the & 7 inch at the front. But running different width wheels Front & rear in NSW is a No No unless maybe you get some engineer to sign it off for you.

8 inch could be a little wide too but then again who cares its only the wheels.


http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... 9_rev4.pdf


ok so maybe you dont care about the above crap.

as far as fitmeont goes......I cant recall now..... plenty of peeps runing 7 inch you may have to roll the fenders on the rear. But I dare say that you will not have a lot of room to play with. Especially if you decide do decrease the fset further.
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Postby Mactype » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:09 pm

StanTheMan wrote:OK offset is great so is the & 7 inch at the front. But running different width wheels Front & rear in NSW is a No No unless maybe you get some engineer to sign it off for you.


err no, reading through the link you've provided it states

Front wheels shall be:
• No wider than the maximum permitted for rear wheels on your vehicle or 204mm (8 inches).
• No narrower than 70% of that fitted to the rear wheels.
• No narrower than a standard wheel fitted to the your vehicle as original equipment.

So staggered is ok if the fronts are no less than 70% of the rears width.

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Postby StanTheMan » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:28 pm

Mactype wrote:
StanTheMan wrote:OK offset is great so is the & 7 inch at the front. But running different width wheels Front & rear in NSW is a No No unless maybe you get some engineer to sign it off for you.


err no, reading through the link you've provided it states

Front wheels shall be:
• No wider than the maximum permitted for rear wheels on your vehicle or 204mm (8 inches).
• No narrower than 70% of that fitted to the rear wheels.
• No narrower than a standard wheel fitted to the your vehicle as original equipment.

So staggered is ok if the fronts are no less than 70% of the rears width.


correct but you need t get this certified by a signatory

I guess i was getting at minor changes without having to get them certified.

a little further down on page 4

under Additional requirements for replacement wheels
it says something about all the wheels must be the same size, width , offset & so on with the exception of spare wheels in case of emergency.
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Postby Mactype » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:26 am

StanTheMan wrote:correct but you need t get this certified by a signatory

I guess i was getting at minor changes without having to get them certified.


No, you only have to get them engineered if they are more than 26mm wider or total wheel and tyre combo is more or less than 15mm larger or smaller in diameter than the largest or smallest diameters on the tyre placard. Or alters track more than x amount.

So it would be legal to stagger with say normal width front and a inch wider rear without looking at engineering. Not that you'd do that but you could within the NSW law.

Personally I love my 15x8's 8)

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Postby StanTheMan » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:12 pm

Ok so you need to explain to me why it does not need to be signed off. To have staggered wheel size.

on page 3 it goes to the heading.

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There are limits to the size of wheels that can be certified by a signatory.
these limits are as follows


....front wheels no narrower than 70% of hat fitted to the rear


Nowhere is the staggering the wheel sizes mentioned under the heading

\"minor Changes to wheels\"

then on page 4 under the heading
Additional requirements for replacement wheels

.....all wheels & tyres fitted to an axle must be the same carcas construction, diameter,offset , width........



I admit English is my 2nd language. But to me that says it needs to be singed off by a signatory

Personally I love my 15x8's :8


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Postby Mactype » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:11 pm

why did I get involved .....
ok,
There are limits to the size of wheels that can be certified by a signatory.
these limits are as follows


....front wheels no narrower than 70% of hat fitted to the rear


This means that an engineer can't pass a set of front rims that are less than 70% the width of the rear.

Additional requirements for replacement wheels

.....all wheels & tyres fitted to an axle must be the same carcas construction, diameter,offset , width........


This is talking about one axle (note the wording \"an axle\") can be either front or back and states you can't put different sizes on each end of the axle to the other end. Your just getting confused that their comparing the front axle to rear axle, their not.

Whilst the minor changes to wheels section doesn't mention staggering specifically as long as you stay within the front rim width of 70% of rear and don't go over the 26mm wider than stock anywhere you don't need to get the vehicle engineered.

Hope that clears it up for you. :D

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Postby Dodgy Haro » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:16 pm

16\" are just a tad too big for an MX5 IMHO but each to their own - I prefer 15\" but small offset with deep dish.

Don't be weak ... anything around the +10 mark is good in my books but that depends on whether you are of the conservative / factory spec crowd or willing to be individualistic?

If you look up the user Sonique128 on the clubroadster forums, he has 15x7\" SSR reverse mesh in +9 offset and they are one of the best set-ups I have seen - my 2nd preference after Work Equip 03's.

I looked into SSR rims which can be had around the $2k mark brand new from Upgrade Motoring however I don't think they make the mesh / reverse mesh at the moment.

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Postby StanTheMan » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:22 pm

thank you mactype


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Postby Garry » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:46 pm

There was some mention of diagonally split braking and staggered wheel sizes. Do MX5's have that?
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