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Postby Hammer » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:20 pm

All the Xenon HID OEM fitted cars that I've seen all seem to have projector style headlights (not reflectors). This is the same type on an NB8B low beam.

I've also seen it an an NB8B, and it does not blind on coming traffic, it's light projection is just like the halogen but much brighter. I also think it's safer for on-coming traffic, because if you look at it off centre, it does not hit you hard. in fact, it turns into a bluish colour.
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Postby Casey » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:00 pm

Hammer wrote:All the Xenon HID OEM fitted cars that I've seen all seem to have projector style headlights (not reflectors). This is the same type on an NB8B low beam.


Top level IS200's have HID's fitted to conventional reflector style headlights - work very well too. They are the ones with the headlight washers.
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Postby Craig » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:09 pm

Garry wrote:BTW, unless they have changed the ADR's recently they are illegal to be fitted without a self levelling device and headlight washers.


Garrys right, any new car delivered to Oz needs these to pass ADR's Hammer, the up spec RX-8's and the Luxo MPS3's runs these to pass ADR's.

Your car is now defectable! :P
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Postby Boost » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:12 pm

Fuzzlet wrote:
Boost wrote:Cars that come equipt with HID's have glass "projectors" to spread and project the lumens onto the road. Most cars use "reflectors" to reflect the lumens onto the road. Projectors produce a sharper cut-off than reflectors. You can get hid bulbs which are made for projectors and reflectors, d2s - projectors & d2r - reflectors.
You will definately need to re-align your headlights after the install for obvious reasons.

I have "projector" style headlights :P

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Postby Dave » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:18 pm

Craig wrote:
Garry wrote:BTW, unless they have changed the ADR's recently they are illegal to be fitted without a self levelling device and headlight washers.


Garrys right, any new car delivered to Oz needs these to pass ADR's Hammer, the up spec RX-8's and the Luxo MPS3's runs these to pass ADR's.

Your car is now defectable! :P

I think you will find this is correct Hammer - Mania had a damaged import Mazdaspeed Axela at their shop for a while, and it had "factory" HIDs but no auto-level or washers as the MPS3 Lux pack does. Our ADRs are pretty fussy about it!
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Postby rjastra2 » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:17 am

Dave wrote: Mania had a damaged import Mazdaspeed Axela at their shop for a while, and it had "factory" HIDs but no auto-level or washers as the MPS3 Lux pack does. Our ADRs are pretty fussy about it!


Our ADRs are fussy? Actually our ADrs are fairly much "harmonised" with the EU. And it was them that stipulated auto levelling and washers for HID headlights. Just consider Japanese regs to be "not" fussy :)

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Postby Hammer » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:00 am

Finally fitted the HID kit over the weekend.

The wiring itself was straightforward in the end. Most of the time was spend figuring out where to locate the 2xBallast of the kit. As in my SP, there are no/if not limited available spots left (The carbon fibre airbox took up most of the empty space on the right hand side, and the re-located windscreen washer reservoir took up the space on the left - if compared to a standard NB8B).

But once the ballasts were securely fitted, the wiring was a simple plug-n-play.
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Postby bruce » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:53 am

The current Honda Accord (?) runs HID I think. Problem is they are blinding head on.

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Postby Garry » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:00 am

The current Honda Accord (?) runs HID I think. Problem is they are blinding head on.


They are even worse coming from behind slightly off centre. One of the worst factory HID setups I've come across for glare to other road users.
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Postby bruce » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:21 am

Everytime I see one it is like they are on high beam. Can you imagine how many complaints the Honda dealers are getting (serves them right though).

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Postby Boost » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:17 am

I agree the accords are pretty bad... also most of their headlights leak water into them causing them to fog up!.
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Postby Roodosutaa » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:44 pm

jules wrote:Not to be a pain, but I really don't like being in front of cars with these lights fitted.


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Am I glad I'm the one sitting behind those lights :P No trouble from the law as yet. And if I get defected it's a simple matter of removing the xenon bulbs and replacing them with H4s and plugging them back in. They won't bust you for having ballasts in the car :)

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Postby Hammer » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:44 pm

bruce wrote:The current Honda Accord (?) runs HID I think. Problem is they are blinding head on.


It must be the way they are aligned.

As when I fitted the HID Kit to the low beam of my NB8B, I installed one side first to compare it's performance to the existing standard halogen bulb. The horizontal plane of both headlights (light coverage) was level and defined. So no mis-aligned reflection etc.

But having said that, technically, they're illegal. As the ADR stipulates that all OEM HID equipt cars must also have a headlight washer installed. Not sure about self-leveling though.
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Postby 16bit » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:15 pm

sit infront of a sl65 benz and you will know what HID really is.

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Postby MX5CHIC » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:04 pm

I drive a NB8A and have always found my headlamps to be terrible so a few months ago I purchased a set of Morette Projector Beam Headlamps and fitted them with 6000k HID Globes.
I was careful to adjust the Low Beam Projector Lamps correctly and have certainly never had anyone flash me. The lighting is nothing short of fantastic in all weather conditions.
As has been mentioned it is illegal to convert Reflector Headlamps to HID as it causes serious glare to oncoming drivers, Projector Lamps have a highly defined cutoff point and thus glare is not an issue if they are adjusted correctly.

The total cost for my conversion was $459.00 but SO worth it.


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