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Postby Astroboysoup » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:40 am

basic history of your car was that it was built up using a 12A motor and 30k of cash by Michael I think his name was. Its was built as a lightweight sleeper. black 15 inch rims and plenty of paint scratches and dents.

Sold it for around 16k for to Peter Ems. Life long member of the mx5 club here in Adelaide. I was going to buy it at this point before peter ems got his hands on it but I came up short on the cash so it was his.

From there Duj swapped his NA for the 12A mx5 resorting it to how it was plus water to air intercooler.

and now its yours.
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Postby SuperMazdaKart » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:55 am

woah, i'll remember not to get on Adam's bad side :shock:
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Postby AJ » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:58 am

maybe, but he makes some very valid points........as anyone who sank money into ANY car over the years would know........well said adam 8)
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Postby Boags » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:20 am

Yep. :cry:
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Postby Adam_NAclubman » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:17 pm

lil_mike wrote:what the hell has my old GTi-R got to do with any of this? i never said it could handle better than an mx5, and made no such comparison


lil_mike wrote:i drove it for a week before i put it into the mechanics? i know what it feels like, but the GTi-r was more stable, and could corner at higher speeds.

well, let me rephrase that. the GTir can corner at higher speeds than the 5. at higher speeds the 5 feels less stable and more likely to oversteer.




lil_mike wrote:I hate the thought of drifting


lil_mike wrote:i had my friend almost in tears from terror after taking him on a hill climb in it drifting at 90 degree angles to the corners at 160kph




lil_mike wrote:nothing pisses me off more than people abusing their cars on public roads


lil_mike wrote:one catch to the GTi-r, and that is that you will tend to push them very hard and yourself. i found myself driving faster and faster all the time until i had to sell it for fear of crashing. they are highly addictive and you cant get enough of them. you will grow to love mountain rds more than you can afford in tyres and fuel. they get a fuel economy of around 250k's to a tank, which isnt all that good, but its justified with the power they produce


lil_mike wrote:i'll keep these and buy a set for track/"spirited driving" *wink wink*


lil_mike wrote:at least the clutch isnt slipping, we "tested" it last night to make sure its fine


lil_mike wrote:
nfs13b wrote:last month after I got the car retuned we decided to dee how it came up on the transbrake.... on the street.
Launched at 6000rpm and the car wheelspun for about 200m, hitting the limiter at 10000rpm..... car was going crazing, hit the brakes and slid towards the gutter, LUCKILY when I did hit the gutter, it was a driveway just missed the drain


rofl nice work


lil_mike wrote:
Boags'MX5 wrote:Do you have a habit of clutch popping?


no, but i have been known to have a brain lapse every now and then and do something silly


lil_mike wrote:actually, its probably my own fault we did some.....naughty things in it last week that might have contributed to the demise of the current gearbox

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Postby StanTheMan » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:21 pm

lil_mike wrote:
maybe you should spend a little time getting your facts straight adam before making assumptions about me and what i do.



People living in glass houses should not be throwing stones.

however
Its a real pity this thread has developed into a slagging match. As I think overall its been a good thread for anyone thinking of doing what are attempting. You've shared your high & lows. Some of us may not agree with some of the decisions you've made but thats not the point. You as well as other people will take a lessons from this journey. It would be sad for all this sh*t to stay in the thread & even worse....for the thread to be closed.

Please remove all the accusations & counter accusations & sort out your differences off line. Or start a different thread so we can all take out the popcorn & enjoy it , and this thread doesn't get ruined in the process.

I think its too much of a good thread to be spoiled by this.
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Postby Duj » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:06 pm

lil_mike wrote:[quote=MIKE]

well, here is the list so far just by going off your original add:

- water pump for W2A cooler. one, it was busted to begin with. two it didnt fit in the first place.

- the "commodore radiator". well, lets start with the fact that a few cracks were covered with black spray paint

- ceramic seals. yeah right, the engine is basically stock besides the porting. that and we think the compression is low on one of the rotors. which has been a recent thing.

- extreme clutch. now when i asked you what type of clutch exactly this was, you said it was a 5 puck. i told you that it wasnt as you would feel it trying to engage. you still insisted. we pulled it off and it was an exedy heavy duty organic, just like i thought.

- Rebuilt Mazdaspeed LSD. yeah right. its a stock viscous out of an import 1.6. you also said you rebuilt it just recently and replaced the clutches in it? i wonder how you did that? also, those pinion gear teeth had broken off when it arrived, and i guarantee it was not like that when i first drove it. gears dont just break from sitting on a truck either.

there is probably more but i'm waiting for a full report from my mechanic first. and before anyone says i should have checked these things, i brought along with me the mx5 checklist, and they arent exactly easy things to spot.
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The pump for the water to air was 'CUSTOM' as basically the whole car was 'CUSTOM' you need to 'CUSTOM FIT' these things cos they dont just fit on their own. how do you know it was stuffed if you didnt fit it...?

The commodore radiator was good and new WTF are you on about...?
that car ran very cool all day long when the thermo was on

CERAMIC SEALS:do you know what they are?, the engine has them in it, how would you know it doesnt if you havnt pulled it down? :? Oh and you THINK the compression is low on one of the rotors... why not just test it...?

The DIFF was fully rebuilt by BOSS differentials in lonsdale, Give them a call and ask graham(owner) about Duj's red mx5 and the diff work he did. GO ON!

Who is your mechanic? some 20yr old who did an apprentiship at a holden or ford dealer? I bet!
I didnt lie about anything and I did you an awesome deal with the price when i sold you the car.

I was real happy for you in the beginning and hoped youd make the car much better than when I had it! And I was more than happy to help with any probs you had.

but cos you blow the diff and the car is off the rd you decide to blame it on me and call me a liar so ......GO ƒü¢k YOURSELF
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Postby Duj » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:13 pm

StanTheMan wrote:I think its too much of a good thread to be spoiled by this.


Stan, the whole thread goes nowhere!
Its basically a guy going on about what he thinks he's going to do to the car and then things turn a lil bad so he has a big whinge.
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Postby AJ » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:30 pm

calm down duj, it ain't worth the heartburn mate :)
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Postby green_comet » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:35 pm

:shock: ... counting the minutes till this thread is locked..

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Postby nfs13b » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:16 pm

Wow this thread has turned interesting :|

Just on a side note... I used to like impressing the kiddies at macca's in my mx5, im sad now thaty I made the change to turn it into a full on drag car.

To anyone thinking of putting a rotor into a mx5, it looks fun, it sounds cheap, but once to start looking to get the power out of the engine it costs a lot to get everything right to handle it.
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Postby Astroboysoup » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:03 pm

nfs13b wrote:
To anyone thinking of putting a rotor into a mx5, it looks fun, it sounds cheap, but once to start looking to get the power out of the engine it costs a lot to get everything right to handle it.


thats why i didn't buy it 3 years ago.

Waaaay tooo much to maintain the beast,
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Postby Sean » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:05 pm

nfs13b wrote:Wow this thread has turned interesting :|

Just on a side note... I used to like impressing the kiddies at macca's in my mx5, im sad now thaty I made the change to turn it into a full on drag car.

To anyone thinking of putting a rotor into a mx5, it looks fun, it sounds cheap, but once to start looking to get the power out of the engine it costs a lot to get everything right to handle it.


Just put it on a trailer and drive into maccas 8)
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Postby nfs13b » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:47 pm

Sean wrote:Just put it on a trailer and drive into maccas 8)


I've done that a few time Sean.... and down the main street of Campbelltown :)

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Postby Adam_NAclubman » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:26 pm

lil_mike on boostcruising wrote:
fearlesss @ Jun 19 2007, 09:47 PM wrote:
man sorry but from everything ive read on that forum , your 100% in the wrong ?

first youve got the wrong car in the vid.
you can actualy back up any of your acusations.
and u made yourself like like a fool for lying about drifting and racing on the street.



ah no, because he was bringing up events that happened two years ago. i've moved past that stage. i'm done with my little hooning stage a long time ago.


MIT20 @ Jun 19 2007, 10:07 PM wrote:

wow you got an absolute working in that thread... way to make a fool of yourself with the hypocrytical qoutes Adam_NAclubman got out of ya



refer to above comment as well

i do have the proof to back up my claims regarding the seller and the car. the vids, well i made a mistake, every one does occassionally.



I was ready to leave it alone but you couldn’t help yourself




lil_mike @ Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:15 am wrote:i dont do burnouts or skids in my car, i hate the thought of drifting and nothing pisses me off more than people abusing their cars on public roads.


lil_mike @ Dec 5 2006, 11:53 AM wrote: What To Do?, need drifting advice
need some help here.

i just blew the clutch up in my r33 skyline. i cant decide whether i should fix it and sell it for something more suitable for drift, or put some money into it and get it drift ready?

its already got coilovers, strut brace and things like that, just needs a boost controller and its set.

my considerations for another car are an ae86, s5 rx7 or an mx-5?

what should i do?


lil_mike @ Dec 5 2006, 12:17 PM wrote:either way it'll get fixed, just if i want to keep it i'll put a full brass clutch in, otherwise, just a stock one would be fine, or similar


lil_mike @ Dec 6 2006, 10:25 AM wrote:if i do keep the 33, what would be a good replacement clutch for it. the old one was a 5 puck ceramic button clutch. did alright, but died after bout 2 hrs straight drifting. a friend recommended i go full brass, but i have heard they can be expensive.


lil_mike @ Dec 8 2006, 03:53 PM wrote: the clutch is almost sorted. getting a hd organic installed. should be alright


So 5 puck ceramic clutches are no good (as evidenced by you mincing one within 2 days of buying a car). Heavy Duty Organic clutches are obviously better since you got one fitted to the 33.

lil_mike @ Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:15 am wrote:- extreme clutch. now when i asked you what type of clutch exactly this was, you said it was a 5 puck. i told you that it wasnt as you would feel it trying to engage. you still insisted. we pulled it off and it was an exedy heavy duty organic, just like i thought.


So why are you so angry about this? And I’m fairly sure that in the for sale thread for the car when you asked Duj what clutch it had he said “As far as I know it’s a 5 puck, I spoke to the guy that built the car and that’s what he put in it but old man Peter Emes had the car before me and may have changed it”


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