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Postby sprx3 » Thu May 31, 2007 11:31 pm

hey kijima, im looking at doing the same thing to mine shortly, if you do a little search under my user name on here you will see a little list i have put together of most of the hard wear you will need, you could get away with it for about 4k if you do it smart ;)

pm me if you would like to talk about it more & if you want to go that way maybe we could get discounts if we buy in two's ;)

p.s the kit i would be putting together will have heaps left in it for when you do decide to step it up, & still be real nice on low boost :)

p.s are you coming to my bucks or what :D
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Postby Sean » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:34 pm

Boags'MX5 wrote:
Fatty wrote:yeah don't be fooled into thinking that by getting a kit, it'll be a simple bolt on job that you can do on a lazy saturday afternoon.. it is still a big undertaking, and involves many grazed knuckles etc. mine took many, many, hours to install over about 2 weeks.


Agreed.


Hmm, AVO kit can easily be fitted drive in drive out in one saturday (including tapping the sump for oil return on the car).

Car was finished in time to take it out driving before dinner...
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Postby Boags » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:06 pm

Sean wrote:Hmm, AVO kit can easily be fitted drive in drive out in one saturday (including tapping the sump for oil return on the car).

Car was finished in time to take it out driving before dinner...


It can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and you have absolutely everything you need.

When you say drive in drive out, do you mean that you took it to them to install?

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Postby Fatty » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:21 pm

my avo kit was second hand and came with a single page photocopied diagram of fitting instructions. i think avo have refined things over the years, my kit was an early example. i had to get additional stuff done, like for example the manifold needed to be machined, as it was warped. also my kit was a bit custom as i used a different fueling solution to what avo suppled, so had to get a few things changed along the way as well.

but yeah fitting the intercooler, pipework etc was pretty easy. however, i asked for some guidance on fitting the mani / turbo / dump pipe and was told to bolt it all together and then fit it in one go. i tried my best but could not get the thing on. i just could not get to some of the bolts, even with a ground down spanner. maybe i should have fitted the manifold first, then bolted the turbo to it, then bolted the dump pipe on. but in the end i got my mechanic to do that bit for me.

and sean, how did you do it all in one day and get the exhaust sorted?? my dump pipe did not match up to my exhast at all, i had to drive the car to the exhaust shop and get a new mid pipe made up.

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Postby Fatty » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:28 pm

oh , one other thing. i got a quote (twice actually) for a \"drive in drive out\" fitting from avo. it was certainly not a one day turnaround, they told me they would need my car for 2 weeks. first time i asked them was 2 years ago when i first started looking into it. second time was after i bought the second hand kit, and yeah both times, they said they'd need my car for 2 weeks.

having done it myself, i can't understand why they would need the car for 2 weeks. it took me that long to do it myself, without a proper workshop or tools, and i ran my car around to the exhaust shop, mechanic / dyno etc etc... had to go to pirtek to get oil lines made, went to an engineering shop for something...borrowed a tap / drillbut for the sump, numerous trips to supercheap etc etc... but there you go. i'm sure i could do it in a quarter of the time now that i know what is involved.

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Postby Sean » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:20 am

Boags'MX5 wrote:
Sean wrote:Hmm, AVO kit can easily be fitted drive in drive out in one saturday (including tapping the sump for oil return on the car).

Car was finished in time to take it out driving before dinner...


It can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and you have absolutely everything you need.

When you say drive in drive out, do you mean that you took it to them to install?

Boags


I mean drive in drive out at my mates shed.

2 people working on the car (me and the shed owning mate).
No air operated tools (other than the two of us :lol: )
Only use of electric tool was a grinder to grind down a 14mm ring spanner to make the manifold easier to put on.
The day included some downtime while we waited for pirtek to arrive to make some hoses as we didn't like teh avo supplied ones.
Fore completeness of the story the ECU had been chaged prior to installing the kit, if using a plug in ECU or 5th injector set-up I dont imagine that adding more than an hour or so to the fitment.


I'd be happy to take on the challenge to fit an AVO kit in a day again if anyone has a car and kit, although I am not liscenced, so not sure where we'd stand on that.
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Postby Fatty » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:27 am

yep i used a grinder on my spanner as well.

sean, did you fit the manifold, then the turbo, then the dump pipe... or did you do it all in one go? and the exhaust?? please have a look at my questions in my previous post.

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Postby Sean » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:05 am

Sorry fatty, didn't completely ready your posts...

The exhaust (dump pipe flange) is a standard 3 bolt flange, (after checking i JUST noticed it's slightly different to the stock one) I used the AVO full exhaust it has the new flange pattern, and had never looked at the stock one til you mentioned it. If you used teh stock one and needed to get to an exhaust shop, it may stretch to a day and a half or a weekend.

As for the turbo/dump etc I fitted all in one go (AVO supply it like that) and had some minor issues getting my fat arms up under the turbo do do up those F*%CKING middle bottom bolts, but had them done quicker than I imagine it would have taken to do it all serperately. I would NEVER attempt fitting the AVO dump pipe to the car unless it was already fitted to teh turbo.

I have removed and changed turbo a few times and usually leave the manifold on, and remove the turbo and dump in one go.

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Postby KIJIMA » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:03 am

Sean wrote:
Boags'MX5 wrote:
Sean wrote:Hmm, AVO kit can easily be fitted drive in drive out in one saturday (including tapping the sump for oil return on the car).

Car was finished in time to take it out driving before dinner...


It can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and you have absolutely everything you need.

When you say drive in drive out, do you mean that you took it to them to install?

Boags


I mean drive in drive out at my mates shed.

2 people working on the car (me and the shed owning mate).
No air operated tools (other than the two of us :lol: )
Only use of electric tool was a grinder to grind down a 14mm ring spanner to make the manifold easier to put on.
The day included some downtime while we waited for pirtek to arrive to make some hoses as we didn't like teh avo supplied ones.
Fore completeness of the story the ECU had been chaged prior to installing the kit, if using a plug in ECU or 5th injector set-up I dont imagine that adding more than an hour or so to the fitment.


I'd be happy to take on the challenge to fit an AVO kit in a day again if anyone has a car and kit, although I am not liscenced, so not sure where we'd stand on that.


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Postby Garry » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:03 am

Just do it Kijima. After you've done it you'll wonder why you waited so long to do it.
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Postby Sean » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:13 pm

KIJIMA wrote:
Sean wrote:
Boags'MX5 wrote:
Sean wrote:Hmm, AVO kit can easily be fitted drive in drive out in one saturday (including tapping the sump for oil return on the car).

Car was finished in time to take it out driving before dinner...


It can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and you have absolutely everything you need.

When you say drive in drive out, do you mean that you took it to them to install?

Boags


I mean drive in drive out at my mates shed.

2 people working on the car (me and the shed owning mate).
No air operated tools (other than the two of us :lol: )
Only use of electric tool was a grinder to grind down a 14mm ring spanner to make the manifold easier to put on.
The day included some downtime while we waited for pirtek to arrive to make some hoses as we didn't like teh avo supplied ones.
Fore completeness of the story the ECU had been chaged prior to installing the kit, if using a plug in ECU or 5th injector set-up I dont imagine that adding more than an hour or so to the fitment.


I'd be happy to take on the challenge to fit an AVO kit in a day again if anyone has a car and kit, although I am not liscenced, so not sure where we'd stand on that.


Hrmz. Be careful what you say on the forum mate! I have Jetstar's number on speed dial! you are only a plane ride away!


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Postby Boags » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:20 am

Sean wrote:
KIJIMA wrote:
Sean wrote:
Boags'MX5 wrote:
Sean wrote:Hmm, AVO kit can easily be fitted drive in drive out in one saturday (including tapping the sump for oil return on the car).

Car was finished in time to take it out driving before dinner...


It can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and you have absolutely everything you need.

When you say drive in drive out, do you mean that you took it to them to install?

Boags


I mean drive in drive out at my mates shed.

2 people working on the car (me and the shed owning mate).
No air operated tools (other than the two of us :lol: )
Only use of electric tool was a grinder to grind down a 14mm ring spanner to make the manifold easier to put on.
The day included some downtime while we waited for pirtek to arrive to make some hoses as we didn't like teh avo supplied ones.
Fore completeness of the story the ECU had been chaged prior to installing the kit, if using a plug in ECU or 5th injector set-up I dont imagine that adding more than an hour or so to the fitment.


I'd be happy to take on the challenge to fit an AVO kit in a day again if anyone has a car and kit, although I am not liscenced, so not sure where we'd stand on that.


Hrmz. Be careful what you say on the forum mate! I have Jetstar's number on speed dial! you are only a plane ride away!


You pay for my ticket and I'd happily spend a weekend (2 days just to be safe) helping.


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Postby KIJIMA » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:00 am

Yeah thanks boags, thats all I need! :lol:
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Postby bruce » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:34 pm

...and drink all the beer.

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Postby Blue94t » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:48 am

I will help fit it.
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