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Whiteline swaybars

Postby zoomzoom » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:48 pm

I have my shocks and springs, now I want some whiteline swaybars to complete the package for my NA6.

Can anyone reccommend any diameter swaybars? I want to get adjustable bars and was looking at maybe 24mm front and 16mm rear. Is this over kill?

Appreciate any suggestions

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Postby Craig » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:03 pm

My NA had 22/14 on it and that seemed a great setup, and not at all taily as others may suggest. 3mm upgrade front and rear so it was even, as Mazda intended! :)

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Postby Slugoid » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:22 am

I've recently got 24/16 adjustable Whitelines and I think they are great. I've currently got the front set to the middle hole and rear to the furthest hole (softest) for a more neutral setup, and can be set harder to dial in more oversteer if required.

Matty discussed about his topic a while ago and he recommended this xls file . It's very useful and also helped me decide on my swaybar settings. The main thing to understand is that the size isn't a problem, but rather the front and rear bias. Too stiff at the front and it will cause understeer and too stiff at the rear will cause oversteer. There has to be a fine balance between the two. Have a play around the file and read all the information there as well.

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Postby RobbieRat » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:04 pm

Highly recommend the whiteline adjustables, front, on full stiff and rear on medium= Beaudifullllllll, just don't back off mid corner with 150+ on the speedo or its spin city. :lol:
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Postby Sheck » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:29 pm

I'd have to disagree with that spin city comment. I have the same sways set at the same settings, and it takes effort to get the arse out, and i know cause i drift it. Id say the spnning bit would have more to do with your alignment and shock/spring combo in addition to the sways but def not the sways by themselves.

QR comming up to turn two top of 3rd, change to 4th and then i have to scando to get it out. I have 6 speed with 4.3 diff, and a turbo. Without the scando all i'd get is understeer at about the half way point of the turn. Backing off will just let me slow down and regain front grip.

Car setup: -2.5 cam & +5.5 cas & 2mm toe out, rear -1.75 cam 0 toe. Suspension tien type NA non adjustible at all - too soft for serious drift/track work.

But hey thats just me :D
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Postby JSE » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:12 pm

What to sway bars actually help with? I understand in principle but can someone break it down so that I (and others) may be enlightened?

Thanks :lol:
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Postby sirbob » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:14 pm

Sway bars act as a spring between the two sides of the car, effectively resiting body roll. Essentially it will force the weight to distribute more evenly across both sides on the car under cornering. The stiffer/larger the diameter of the sway bar, the less body roll the car will experiance and the more evenly the weight will distribute. Keep in mind that although the suspension is now tied together, the chassis will start to flex more. Like everything, there is a balance between too much body roll and not enough. Your car needs to flex/roll to mobilize the suspension and make the most of your castor, etc, in order to get the maximum grip during cornering. This is where a sway bar can help.

Butters has Teins SS in a NA6, and they made a great difference to overall handling with the stock sway bars, however, you could still get it to slide around without much effort. With the addition of a pair of whiteline bars, the suspension really started to lock down, body roll dramatically reduced and cornering stability and turn-in went from \"pretty good\" to \"FRIGGING AWESOME\"

Basically in my own opinion the sway bars were the best bang for buck suspension mod you could do!
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Postby veecee » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:10 am

I'm considering upgrading my swaybar with Whiteline adjustables. So what diameter swaybars should I go to on my NB8A? The car is currently stock.


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