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Postby MX5-SP » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:35 am

miztapizza wrote:was that 40mm kings with standard shocks coz i have standard shocks and kings low's( i'm told they only make lows not super low)


I'm having the SP lowered a tad on Wed/Thur next week when the new tyres get fitted. After a bit of a chat with Southport Mazda (who service the car)...they recommended a two-way approach. First fit Super-low King springs (which have to be made up), and check the handling/ride/balance for my needs/requirements. Then if I feel I need to go lower, change the shocks, but they were strongly hinting further lowering would be a waste of money from a handling perspective as I'm not into any competition stuff (except when chasing a certain Blu Loo SP through Binnadabba way).

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Postby JBT » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:11 am

Teins mate, go for Teins.
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Postby Okibi » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:09 am

JBT wrote:Teins mate, go for Teins.


Go the Tein Flex :mrgreen:
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Postby MX5-SP » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:15 pm

UPDATE: Mazda have just advised me the King Springs will only get me 19cms closer to the ground to stay within the legal limits. That's not much for the quoted $600, so I cancelled the order. The chap I was speaking to did say that a set of Teins would get me there (...I don't know what happened to the legal limit, but somehow the Teins comply). Anyway, the revised quote is substantially out of budget...

I double checked with Fulcrum as they are the suppliers and there's not a significant difference in price for the Tein kit, fitting and wheel alignment between Fulcrum and King Springs...which kind of surprised me.

Can any other clubbies tell me the differences they noticed after fitting Teins? (please be more specific than \"chalk and cheese, mate\")

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Postby MX5-SP » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:22 pm

MX5-SP wrote:the King Springs will only get me 19cms closer to the ground


IDIOT!!! I meant 19mms.... :roll:

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Postby kitkat » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:36 pm

MX5-SP wrote:Can any other clubbies tell me the differences they noticed after fitting Teins? (please be more specific than "chalk and cheese, mate")

Cheers,

Mr Lovell fitted his teins to his SE... from what i gathered he liked the result very much, it also lowered it ALOT... instead of the fist size gap in the arches its a struggle to fit a finger in there... ill post up pics later tonight if i remember.
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Postby Okibi » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:03 pm

MX5-SP wrote:..Can any other clubbies tell me the differences they noticed after fitting Teins?


Chalk and Cheese, Mate! :lol: :oops:

I have the tein flex, my car is as low as it can legally go and i'm very happy with how they handle.
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Postby kitkat » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:38 pm

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MX5-SP wrote:Can any other clubbies tell me the differences they noticed after fitting Teins? (please be more specific than "chalk and cheese, mate")

Cheers,

Mr Lovell fitted his teins to his SE... from what i gathered he liked the result very much, it also lowered it ALOT... instead of the fist size gap in the arches its a struggle to fit a finger in there... ill post up pics later tonight if i remember.

Rob's SE lowered with Teins...
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Postby Okibi » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:50 pm

Mine just on legal height

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Postby STV » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:32 pm

Okibi, when your car had Eibachs... was it legal?

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Postby Okibi » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:02 pm

It never had Eibachs :mrgreen:
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Postby deez » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:10 pm

Are there actually any handling differences between different brands of springs?

Does the extra few hundred bucks for Tein's really justify its superiority over something like King's?

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Postby kitkat » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:33 pm

deez wrote:Are there actually any handling differences between different brands of springs?

Does the extra few hundred bucks for Tein's really justify its superiority over something like King's?

Thanks :lol:

different brands, differnt spring rates. Different methodswhen theyre made, one will stay firmer longer.

These are just assumptions but i guess im on the right track...

Im running Espelir springs which are just as hard as the teins... but they cost a hell of alot more than kings.
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Postby Okibi » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:25 am

Ok the teins are a \"coilover\" unit with spring and dampener.

Don't confuse teins with being \"hard\", you order them with what ever rate of springs you want.

The rates they recommend are harder than most.

The benefit of the teins over Koni/Kings or Koni/Eibachs is that you have more adjustability (and the ability to add in an EDFC)

Ride Height
Front-27 mm Rear -27 mm

Ride Height Adjust Range
Front
max 25 mm min -53 mm

Rear
max -6 mm min -41 mm
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Postby Garry » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:38 am

With the Teins you get a complete package with the damping set up correctly for the spring rate where as the King/Eibach/Koni/AGX/stock damper set up is a bit hit and miss as far as damping rates go.
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