EOI - Brisbane dodgy day take II

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:14 pm

KAM wrote:Thanks for hosting the day UA

Was great to meet everyone and put faces to names and learn some of the do's AND don'ts when working on these cars

If anyone finds a couple of extra spanners in their toolbox I'm missing a 10mm and 12mm Metrinch openend/ring spanners

Kym

is that those that goes with the grey slip in pocket thingy?

i have used the 10mm for the nut on the back of the coil pack and i think i put them back.

will check again.

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:32 pm

JBT wrote:
Uncle Arthur wrote:the clutch travel/pickup isn't quite right

More info?

The clutch felt like it needed to be all the way to the floor, and even then wasn't quite engaging fully on my first quick test drive, so gear changes were a bit too notchy (and I don't want to be riding/wearing the throwout as happened to Rogue)

JBT wrote:
Uncle Arthur wrote:can anyone advise exactly where on pedal travel the clutch should be picking up?

Mine takes up about 2/3 pedal travel from the floor but it has done 150,000km. About 1/3 to 1/2 travel from the floor would be good for a new clutch. The old hydraulics might not be up to the task if it's a heavy spring pressure plate.

I'm thinking hydraulics... I did bleed it yesterday afternoon - basically used almost 2/3 of a bottle of fluid to clear it through, but it looks like there is a little bit of fluid inside the firewall, which suggests master cylinder to me...... But other than that I was wondering where the takeup point should be. I adjusted the nut on the lever arm inside the car, but I think I've gone the wrong way. Hence my question of how it should feel when adjusted right - I imagine the pedal should feel like it is taking up right as you push it in - as inno free play/travel?

kitkat · Postby **kitkat** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:01 pm

i think there is about a half inch travel before clutch begins to dissengage.

I know with a new clutch the slave cyclinder will eventually fall apart due to the new travel settings.
Happend with the bmw when i had a new clutch put in, the slave cyclinder lasted prob a week.

NMX516 · Postby **NMX516** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:11 pm

Uncle Arthur wrote:I'm thinking hydraulics... I did bleed it yesterday afternoon - basically used almost 2/3 of a bottle of fluid to clear it through, but it looks like there is a little bit of fluid inside the firewall, which suggests master cylinder to me......

Just looking through my 'Mazda MX5 Enthusiasts Workshop Manual' and they suggest that the car should be as close to horizontal when bleeding the system... Was yours still up on the 4 axle stands when you bled it UA?

JBT · Postby **JBT** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:27 pm

As a guide, my clutch pedal has about 10 mm travel before resistance from the hydraulics system starts (pushing the pedal with my little finger). It feels normal under foot and much the same as the Astina.

Hayne's states that the disengagement pedal height (minimum - including carpet) is 2.68 inches (68.1 mm). Haynes also states that the pedal height (including carpet) should be 6.89 - 7.28 inches (175 - 185 mm)

My clutch mechanism is physically disengaging/engaging when the pedal is a bit more than 1/2 of it's full travel from the floor (i.e. from when it's fully depressed). My clutch must be fairly worn though at 150,000km.

I reckon it should be disengaging/engaging at about 1/3 of full pedal travel from the floor when new. That roughly agrees with the Haynes figures too.

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:01 pm

NMX516 wrote:
Uncle Arthur wrote:I'm thinking hydraulics... I did bleed it yesterday afternoon - basically used almost 2/3 of a bottle of fluid to clear it through, but it looks like there is a little bit of fluid inside the firewall, which suggests master cylinder to me......

Just looking through my 'Mazda MX5 Enthusiasts Workshop Manual' and they suggest that the car should be as close to horizontal when bleeding the system... Was yours still up on the 4 axle stands when you bled it UA?

Car was down on all fours when I bled it yesterday.

I'll adjust the bolt first, and see how I go.... simple stuff first

Boags · Postby **Boags** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:11 pm

Sounds like an awesome day guys!!!

Count me in for the next one for sure... I have a glove box to fix somehow, and orange lenses to remove from the indicators

Pics are great too, thanks guys... I really wish I could have made it...

BTW - Thailand rocks, I had cocktails out of a pineapple and a massive bbq'd seafood dinner and drinks post-meal for $16 aussie dollars last night :twisted:

not to mention my new $12 Billabong boardies and genuine Casio diving watch(with warranty and all) for $120!!

I love this place...

Boags

Boags · Postby **Boags** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:15 pm

OMY005 wrote:Sabretooth hard at it. (whats that hissing noise I can here)

Keep it in your pants sabre...

:lol:

MonSqueek · Postby **MonSqueek** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:24 pm

Roll on BDDIII ! Despite the huge ammounts of work actually done on the day I know there is still dodgyness to partake in! I think Mixxy probably takes honours for dodgiest fix - her window is now locked in the up position with .... cable ties ! So that one is still a work in progress.

Lessons lernt at BDDII:

* Secure all bling lest it get transplated while your not looking !

* Lock your doors when you sneak off to have a nap behind the wheel or someone will wake you looking for the vent ring extraction device.

* The boys are really approachable and happy to answer all stoopid questions - and I had lots... Learnt heaps in that regard

* When the testostrone gets too much Jen is lovley and will hide you upstairs for a bit

* The wingz are devine but once you step up to thermo-nuclear you can't go back to saftey sauce... it is not as satisfying (probably because the tastebuds have been burnt off) and your lips will tingle for at least 30mins after the last wing is consumed.

I wonder if the southerners have dodgy days? Im going to miss these when I go home (to Melbourne) Im not sure that even if they had a DD it could come close to comparing to BDDII ! I hope I will get to witness BDIII before I leave!

A huge thanks goes out to UA and Jen - Outstanding hospitality on all accounts...

kitkat · Postby **kitkat** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:24 pm

Boags'MX5 wrote:

Keep it in your pants sabre...

sabretooth · Postby **sabretooth** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:31 pm

Uncle Arthur wrote:I'm still scrubbing grease out from my fingernails, and I've discovered cuts on my hands I never knew existed until the soap hits them..... I think I'm also still rinsing bits of grease, dirt and undercar gunk from my eyes too.....

Ditto. Using washing machine detergent BURNS! Ouch. Does the trick though.

We'll be dirtying those bits again when it's time for the turbo to go in!

As for the clutch master - http://forums.sabretooth.id.au/viewtopic.php?t=75

Jules, no worries with the fixing - I was happy to. Just a shame about the judgment call on the AC - that's so bizarre how it happened - I guess the compressor bracket doesn't like being leaned on! But generally, I don't think I put down a ratchet the whole day. The biggest downer had to be rogue's leak. We were a little suspicious when we were doing his pump - he mentioned the impeller was a bit stiff, and then the leak started once it was all together!

The sausages charcoaled one side of them so I only had one sausage for the whole day. I was starrrving when I got home. I wasn't game to pick up the wings with small nicks and cuts on my hands either. Plus I didn't know where the closest fire hydrant was.

Also, Spy - I'll PM you about playing courier for us. Jules needs this switch and I need that lifter.

KAM · Postby **KAM** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:35 pm

Philip Lee wrote:
KAM wrote:Thanks for hosting the day UA

Was great to meet everyone and put faces to names and learn some of the do's AND don'ts when working on these cars

If anyone finds a couple of extra spanners in their toolbox I'm missing a 10mm and 12mm Metrinch openend/ring spanners

Kym

is that those that goes with the grey slip in pocket thingy?

i have used the 10mm for the nut on the back of the coil pack and i think i put them back.

will check again.

Yes that's the ones but someone may have used it after you.
I'm sure they will turn up when someone spots them in ther toolbox.

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:40 pm

MonSqueek wrote:I wonder if the southerners have dodgy days? Im going to miss these when I go home (to Melbourne) Im not sure that even if they had a DD it could come close to comparing to BDDII ! I hope I will get to witness BDIII before I leave!

don't you worry, Melb were the pioneer of the dodgy days. :lol:

sabretooth wrote:The sausages charcoaled one side of them so I only had one sausage for the whole day. I was starrrving when I got home. I wasn't game to pick up the wings with small nicks and cuts on my hands either. Plus I didn't know where the closest fire hydrant was.

the closest one was strapped on UA's rollbar :lol:

there was another one at the kitchen too......

SPy vs. SPy · Postby **SPy vs. SPy** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:55 pm

All this talk of wingz and too much namby pamby sauce on Saturday, I'm off to the shops. A nice pile of Chernobyl Wingz for me tonight :mrgreen:

Kitty Kat has homework for tonight (see PM)
The Tooth has PM
Jules will have homework tomorrow

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:01 pm

Philip Lee wrote:
MonSqueek wrote:I wonder if the southerners have dodgy days? Im going to miss these when I go home (to Melbourne) Im not sure that even if they had a DD it could come close to comparing to BDDII ! I hope I will get to witness BDIII before I leave!

don't you worry, Melb were the pioneer of the dodgy days.

Yeah but they did them in a nice comfy workshop with the assistance of a Mazda mechanic - nothing dodgy about that