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New Pirellis For Max

Postby JBT » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:13 pm

Getting these Pirellis fitted tomorrow.

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One of the tyres in their ultra high performance range. I'll let you all know how they go in the coming weeks.
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Postby AJ » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:19 pm

seriously good tyre JB............Pirellis answer to the Michelin Preceda.......they'll feel a bit squirmy for the first 3- 400 k's from what i'm told, but after that they stick like baby sh*t to a blanket :mrgreen:
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Postby Richee » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:06 am

they look seriously dangerous, you take care JBT :D
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Postby JBT » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:29 am

AJ wrote:they'll feel a bit squirmy for the first 3- 400 k's from what i'm told

Well I'll tell you as well :shock: .

First impressions (not fair after just 50 km), compared to the Turanzas, are that they:

1. feel harder, like they're pumped up an extra 10 psi (they're not); and
2. are quite slippery - checked over my mini test area.
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Postby JBT » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:32 am

phatMX wrote:JBT I want to see you eating up more nissans out at the track on the 12th of September!

Bwahaha........I can't even eat other MX-5s :lol: :roll: I did find out a few things yesterday that might help me a bit next month though.
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Postby Garry » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:32 am

My boss recently replaced the Dragons on his SV6 with Precedas and loves the Precedas. He said the Precedas have a smoother quieter ride and better wet weather grip.
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Postby Charlie Brown » Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:55 pm

Put the Dragons onto Mrs CB's Mazda 6, 215x40x17 at $200 per corner.
Found the same as JBT. Very firm ride compared to the Turanzas that were on it, noisier too.

I don't think they're the answer to Precedas as the Dragons are the bottom of Pirelli's performance range.
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Postby maxwolfie » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:53 pm

I was gonna say, my tires are fine :P

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Postby JBT » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:09 pm

Charlie Brown wrote:I don't think they're the answer to Precedas as the Dragons are the bottom of Pirelli's performance range.

Maybe not the answer to Precedas but they're in the same category as the P Zeros etc. in the ultra high performance range CB. Might get better with age :?
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Postby jules » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:21 pm

I have them on the Acclaim.....not that that wo9uld make you rush out and buy some.

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Postby JBT » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:35 pm

Well, I've run up 600km on these tyres and they are pretty well bedded in now. I feel (on my mini test route) that they are every bit as grippy as the Turanzas were. However, the ride is significantly harsher than with the Turanzas - a bit like the 60 series A539s on the original 14\" wheels.

I've tried a few different pressures and feel that I'm getting the best results at 31-32psi cold. It'll be interesting to see how they go at track day in a few weeks.
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Postby AJ » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:25 pm

tolja didn't i??? :wink:
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Postby JBT » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:08 pm

Yep, and I'm hoping you're right about them sticking like the proverbial AJ. Track day will be a good test..........at least I can spear off the track without banging into anybody should I inadvertently pass the adhesion limit :shock:
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Postby JBT » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:42 pm

Well I tried them out today at QR. I set them 33 psi cold and they heated up to 36-37 psi after 7 laps - same as the Turanzas. They feel weird because, compared to the Turanzas, they initially seemed squirmy but ultimately hang on. The car also felt more neutral to slightly taily through corners rather than a bit understeery which I can't figure out.

They don't howl like the Turanzas until they seem like they're about to let go at a somewhat higher speed but even then they seem to just keep hanging on - noticed this in the slower turns 3, 4 and 5. Control comes back quite smoothly if any slide develops. Any minor slide happened quite gradually. I was managing entry speeds at turns 1 and 2 of 130 and 125 km/hr but ran out of balls to push it any harder for fear of what might happen if the car lost grip - might try a bit faster next time after some instruction, trying different pressures and maybe tweaking up the Konis which are still set at about 1/3.

Overall, I left QR today with a huge smile and high respect for these tyres despite my initial doubts about their capabilities - which I think far exceed mine :oops:
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Postby OMY005 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:59 pm

So, They seem like a very good tyre for the price then? I think I will try these when my taxi specials are worn out.

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