Shopping around for radiator hoses

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Shopping around for radiator hoses

Postby sabretooth » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:26 am

Well, silly me forgot to check that the thermofan controller was still working after I had put a plug on it to make the ECU area easier to manage. So there I was, on the M1 when I got stuck in stop-start traffic. I wasn't thinking of having done the modification, and so was just moving then stopping frequently as the M1 banked up.

Next thing I know, \"boomph PSSSHCHHCHHHHH\" and there's steam coming up from under the bonnet. Oops. :) Turns out that the thermofan wasn't turning on, so I guess that the cooling system pressure climbed too high when the enigne got hot, eventually finding a weak spot in the cooling system - which was the driver's side of the top radiator hose.

So while I was waiting for things to cool down and see what I could do about the hole, a mechanic happened to pull over and see if I needed help. I was pretty well sorted, but he had something I didn't have - electrical tape! I opted to soldier on instead of get towed back home. So, eventually when the coolant stopped hissing out, I had a look at the source of the leak, which was a hole about 2mm in size. After removing the cap (after the system had depressurised) about 2L was missing from the cooling system - that wasn't really that much of a problem, as the cooling system of the car with the PWR radiator made for a greatly increased cooling system capacity.

I checked through the car but was unable to find anything that we could bind up the hole in the top radiator hose with, so we used the electrical tape he had. The top hose was then bound up and put back into service on the car. I also jumpered the diagnostic connector to make the thermofan run full time until I get the thermofan controller sorted out. It's held up for a few days now.

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So, yesterday I went a parts-hunting, figuring that I should replace both of the hoses. First stop Repco, as I knew I'd be disappointed and end up going elsewhere. Top radiator hose? $101. Bottom hose? $60ish. HAHAHA yeah, as if. $160+ for TWO hoses?? This is why they're fondly known as Ripco.

Stop #2 - Supercheap. Unfortunately, Grommet (the supplier of Supercheap's cooling hoses) do not specifically stock a hose for MX-5s, so I was out of luck there. And then Mazda - $55 for the top hose, $45 for the bottom hose. I thought about it for a while and could not fathom how the hoses could be so expensive - so I thought around the problem a bit. Supercheap had a whole bin full of coolant hoses, and at least one of them is surely bound to fit my application. Using the digital verniers, I measured the radiator outlet and thermostat housing outlet for the inner diameter of hose required. With that info, I went to supercheap to look for hoses of the appropriate length. I came up with two winners - a Toyota Corolla hose (part number GR38) and a Holden Commodore hose (GR63). In hindsigbht, two GR38s would have fit the bill nicely. Here are some comparison pics:

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The inner diameters are only 1-2mm smaller - if it gets a bit tight then it's nothing a bit of soap or warming up of the hose ends can't fix. And the cost for these hoses? $10.60ea. And all I have to do to make the hoses fit is shorten them with a knife!

So with a bit of shopping around, I've saved myself $70 if I had gone to Mazda or $140 if I'd gone to Repco!

Some OEM parts are such a ripoff. And it's not everyday that the aftermarket equivalents are double the price. it pays to shop around and do a little bit of improvising.

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Postby OMY005 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:11 pm

Excellent job and a good find. 8) We should have stuff like this in the tech archive. Are you adding it to your site.?

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Postby sabretooth » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:20 pm

Once I install the hoses (probably tonight), it'll definitely go onto my site. :)

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Postby 93_Clubman » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:57 am

thanks sabre - great find!

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Postby sabretooth » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:36 pm

OK, I got around to fitting the hoses last night. While they're a nice fit on the PWR's fittings, they're a little looser than I had expected for the engine side of things. It's nothing a worm-drive hose clamp won't fix though - I'll be buying a couple tonight, finishing the fitting and refilling the cooling system. I'll keep an eye on the hoses for the short/medium-term and see how they're holding up. I don't expect to have any issues though.

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Postby Okibi » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:34 pm

We managed to make a heater hose for our LV MPV from a VP/VR heater hose yesterday.

It took HOURS to remove the end of the hose attached to the block, under the headers, above the starter motor and all blocked by the front sub frame.

Even with the starter motor removed it took hours, would have been easier to dremel the clamp off if i'd had one handy. I've got 8 cuts to prove how much of a prick it was.
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Postby jolt » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:24 pm

Those prices from Repco are outrageous!! I can get \"bling-bling blue\" genuine Samco silicon radiator hose sets for NA6/8 MX5's for around $200!!

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Postby Okibi » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:36 pm

I got my bling bling red silicon hoses to my door for CHEAPER than Mazda Hoses.
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Postby jolt » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:00 pm

That's awesome Okibi ... where from and what brand are they? Got any pic's?!?! :lol:

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Postby Okibi » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:09 pm

umm .. it was a long time ago. SFS brand I think.

I'll look for some photos.
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Postby Okibi » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:55 am

I think this is where I bought them from, but it was years ago.

http://www.miatamania.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36338
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