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Postby mossy » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:22 pm

Either way bang for your buck you can't go past the guys at BRP, while I think the uber is a great unit also I was told there probably would be fitment issues for the coldside with the steering racks on our cars.

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Postby AJ » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:03 pm

FWIW, i've never taken any notice of this rear wheel kilowatts.......too many variables involved, whenever i've dynoed a car of mine, i only wanna know kilowatts or HP at the flywheel, that tells ME what i want to know 8)
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Postby Okibi » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:33 pm

FYI the NB8As in Australia have a bunch of Bananas and the US edition has a cast header.
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Postby The Pupat » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:44 pm

AJ wrote:FWIW, i've never taken any notice of this rear wheel kilowatts.......too many variables involved, whenever i've dynoed a car of mine, i only wanna know kilowatts or HP at the flywheel, that tells ME what i want to know 8)



That's a lot of effort pulling motors out of the car to chuck them on an engine dyno to get a flywheel kW figure. The only accurate measure is rolling road, but then that's really only acurate if every other variable is the same. Ohterwise take it to the drags the numbers rarely lie. :)
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Postby timk » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:25 pm

I say turn off all corrections on the rolling road, but you will still have a million variables! :(

Forced induction for the NC sounds great!

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Postby yarnmx5 » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:03 pm

Is this system designed to go on while keeping the standard ECU or is an after market programmable computer required? Thinking about RTA approval?

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Postby Okibi » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:20 pm

Road transport Authority, and more importantly ADR (Australian Design Rules) compliant.

You’ll need your Australian office/distributor to get a car with your kit emissions tested to show that a car with your kit still meets Australian standards. Then I assume it’s more paperwork and money to government departments.

BUT, it may be worth it because you’ll sell a lot more once the kit is ADR compliant.

I recommend the AVO turbo kit to NA6 owners over any other for the simple fact that it comes with a certificate to say it’s ADR compliant and saves the owner big dollars when it comes to getting their car approved by your local RTA.

If you turbo/supercharge any car and don’t get permits then your insurance won’t pay up if your in an accident. It’s just not worth the risk.
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Postby sabretooth » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:26 pm

Even if the kit isn't pre-certified by the RTA or similar body, you can still get it tested/engineered as an individual - eg my car's plated for emissions testing. Pre-certification will certainly increase the attractiveness of any kit, though.

On a sidenote, it was good to see that StageOne weren't attacked for being a vendor. :D

Joe/Brant, while not NC supercharging specific, I see there's an engines section on your site. Will you guys be adding engine internals for BP motors? I've got pistons, and am shopping for rods, studs, an oil pump, welch plugs and other bits and pieces.

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Postby yarnmx5 » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:41 pm

- eg my car's plated for emissions testing

Saber, can you walk us through what process you went through to get it all approved. Also, without divulging specifics, what ballpark costs were incurred to get it plated for emissions.

Thanks in advance

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Postby sabretooth » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:48 pm

yarn, I wish I knew! I bought the car with the turbo and ECU with the plate already there.

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Postby Sean » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:53 pm

I wrote a small peice on emissions and engineering that's posted here somewhere...

It's based on NSW though.
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Postby Sean » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:58 pm

When results speak for themselves - don't interrupt.

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Postby yarnmx5 » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:11 pm

Sean, thanks for the input, I must have missed that thread. I have spoken to an engineer and have basically been told unless I put in a different engine with ALL attachments for that engine (ecu, emission controls, induction, airbox etc) then is probably not worth the effort and dough. And yes, I would have to get the car to NSW from SA and get it emissions tested...long way to go if it fails.

Anyway, I kinda go through these patches where I imagine the whine of a supercharger or psshh of a BOV, then come back to reality.

Oh well, back to dreaming.

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Postby Sean » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:40 pm

I wonder how you'd go buying a car engineered and certified interstate and bringing it home?

Regardless of the state.
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Postby yarnmx5 » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:14 pm

I have asked the same question. Apparently, each state has different laws RE; emissions and general approvals, so I think getting certified outside of SA wont count. To be registered in SA say from a car regoed in Vic or NWS, it has to be inspected here to get SA reg. Mind you, I know someone who bought a GT3 ex-racer and got it regoed here without an inspection. He was crapping himself as the car was so far from being legal. Just have to be at the inspection station on the right day.

I think the NA6 will have to suffice for now........


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