it's done, glens turbo results

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:15 pm

ok, for the crank angle sensor which colour wire feeds sensor 1 and sensor2? it's either white or yellow blue for either one.

also can the two wire's at the coil pack ignition output 1&2 be found at the ecu end or do you have to pick it up at the plug at the engine bay.

and also where is the fuel pump lt green wire located in the loom. wheres the easist spot to hook into it.

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Wed May 17, 2006 9:28 pm

ok so what did you do in regards to the fuel pump? im supposed to tap into the lt green fuel pump wire but it doesnt run to the plug. thanks for da link. i have been working off this one already.

im going to go insane soon so if you see a almost complete mx5 turbo conversion for sale. i'll be off with da fairys......

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:34 pm

Steve 818 wrote:For the fuel pump I have run a jumper from pin E1 to Fc in the AFM connector (for a 1.6) which bypasses the safety system and keeps the fuel pump going while ever the ignition is on.

Or you could get creative and tap into either the Violet wire from the ECU (Conn 1C) or the light green wire from the AFM to replicate the OEM signal. But either option will depend on how the Microtech fires the fuel pump (either by grounding the signal or by sending a signal).

The Microtech is a ground switch. You can connect it to the Light green from teh TPS like Steve suggests

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:56 pm

You got mail

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:18 pm

great work. thanks

you saved me alot of $.

cant believe someone would be so helpful.

:mrgreen:

jules · Postby **jules** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:49 am

Hey Glen,

Could we get some pics of your project?

I know you're probably in the middle of some serious head scratching, but just think. You are paving the way to Guru status, having your head filled with new knowledge you never had, and tapping into the knowledge that others have gained through the same frustrating, but ultimately satisfying process.

I'd love to see how the thing's looking.

Jules

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:26 am

ok i shall go forth and wire today and take some pics thursday. working tomorrow :cry:

sean is the brain child.
the only thing i can offer is i think your better off buying a brandnew microtech or a plug&play ecu.

my ecu has so far cost me $1030. but thats configured for my setup not just a stock 1.6. it's still going to be $200-400 for a tune. i saved on the install of the ecu thanks to sean who has helped me heaps. im still trying to do it cheap as possible but i have realised it is very hard to achieve a cheap turbo install. i have 2 cars so theres been no super rush. the only way to do it cheap is to keep waiting for a part here or there to turn up for da right price which is what i have done. i picked up a complete intercooler+pipping and BOV for $56 off a BP series motor. i only want the BOV though but that is a good example. besides the ecu the intercooler and pipping was the second biggest head scratch for me. not knowing the correct volume of air from the turbo to the throttle body. only 1 way to find out.

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Tue May 23, 2006 12:59 pm

ok, when it's wired up can i run at idle on da stock injectors or do i need to put da 460 inj in as this is what the ecu is configured for? i figure that the pulse rate wont make any difference under idle.

can someone concur?

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Tue May 23, 2006 7:50 pm

nar....i will just drop the 460's in. thats what the ecu is expecting

update....turned the key and the motor just turns, re-did the earth....nothing. no fire. :cry:

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:26 pm

glen73 wrote:nar....i will just drop the 460's in. thats what the ecu is expecting

update....turned the key and the motor just turns, re-did the earth....nothing. no fire.

Check the lights on the ECU for faults...

Do you have it setup on a laptop or hand controller?
If you do I can run you through some tests which will let you check that it's working correctly.

Basic things to check:

Is it getting fuel?
Can you hear the fuel pump whirring away in the tank?
After a while cranking can you smell the fuel coming out the exhaust?

Is it getting spark?
Pull the plugs and check.

Do you have the timing set correctly? Again if you have a handset I can run you through the process of setting it within the microtech.

It could also be that you've got it all correct but teh settings the tuner has put in are not quite right to get it to start

greenMachine · Postby **greenMachine** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:45 pm

Checked that it's firing TDC on compression stroke (not TDC exhaust stroke)? :oops:

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Wed May 24, 2006 7:08 am

Sean wrote:Check the lights on the ECU for faults...

theres a red that falshes

Sean wrote:Do you have it setup on a laptop or hand controller?
If you do I can run you through some tests which will let you check that it's working correctly....

no laptop or hand controller, the later could be looking a good option.

Sean wrote:Is it getting fuel?
Can you hear the fuel pump whirring away in the tank?
After a while cranking can you smell the fuel coming out the exhaust?....

yer i can hear the fuel pump but i was solo so i will get my wife to turn the key next time so i check the exhaust

Sean wrote:Is it getting spark?
Pull the plugs and check.

Do you have the timing set correctly? Again if you have a handset I can run you through the process of setting it within the microtech.....

it should be 10 TDC yes? because i know mine isnt there.

Sean wrote:It could also be that you've got it all correct but teh settings the tuner has put in are not quite right to get it to start

will be a little pissed as i paid $380 and its supposed to be for 460 inj.

steve, i will get a multi-meter tomorrow. start going over it.

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Wed May 24, 2006 6:42 pm

glen73 wrote:
Sean wrote:Do you have the timing set correctly? Again if you have a handset I can run you through the process of setting it within the microtech.....

it should be 10 TDC yes? because i know mine isnt there.

Yeah it should be.

Steve 818 wrote:Every 'serious' back yard EFI tuner should have one.

AH I hate backyarders! sader still I am one :roll:

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:35 pm

are the hand controlers user friendly or do you have to some sort of degree in engineering?

glen73 · Postby **glen73** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:52 pm

just pulled the first plug, no spark. rechecked wiring for ign out 1&2. grey/red to yellow/brown. grey/balck to brown. they seem to be correct.
also im just running a jumper for the fuel pump in diag box. F/P to ground for now till it starts. i have left the green from micro unconnected.

whats next?