Okibi's Electronic Boot Release Saga

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Okibi's Electronic Boot Release Saga

Postby Okibi » Wed May 17, 2006 5:59 pm

Well today I got some time off to try and install my electronic boot release.

I used Fig's instructions from this page .

I thought i'd test to see if the pulse was strong enough for the actuator instead of wiring in a relay, so I connected the wires and pressed the 3rd button on my keyring.

Now my central locking wont work.

The alarm siren doesn't sound.

If I try and turn it off/on at the siren it doesn't make the usual chirp sound.

If I turn the alarm on, the indicators flash and the car arms itself (but wont lock the doors).

If I trigger the alarm it flashes the indicators.

The Microwave Sensor still triggers the alarm.

When I disarm the alarm the indicators flash about 4 times (but dont unlock the doors).

The 10 Amp \"door\" fuse looks ok and i've tested it with another fuse.

I have tried disconnecting the battery for 30 seconds to try and reset it.

Any other fuses/relays I should be testing?

Any advice?
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Postby Okibi » Wed May 17, 2006 6:23 pm

Perhaps i've fried this ..
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The workshop manual doesn't say where the control module is located.

Am I correct in assuming it's under almost directly under the steering column as you look from under the dash.

With \"Lucas 19A5\" written on it?
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Postby Okibi » Wed May 17, 2006 6:39 pm

There's a \"Door Lock and Timer Unit\" P/N B6A62830 $240.

But perhaps the issue is more to do with the Mazda alarm because the siren won't chirp or sound at all.
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Postby Insurgence » Wed May 17, 2006 10:23 pm

oh no i was going to try this! :shock:
dude i hope it's nothing serious :!:
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Postby Okibi » Wed May 17, 2006 10:50 pm

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This is the diagram but I can't tell where it is meant to be under the dash.
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Postby Okibi » Wed May 17, 2006 11:20 pm

FIXED IT !!! found a blown 7.5 fuse!

Cheap solution, thank god for fuses!

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Postby Okibi » Thu May 18, 2006 1:31 am

I guess i'm going to test the wire and retry with a relay.
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Postby Okibi » Thu May 18, 2006 2:41 am

Ok it was the right wire (thanks Fig) 12.3v burst, I guess i'll try with a relay like I should have done to begin with.

I'll do an \"update\" tomorrow if I get more time.
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Postby Okibi » Thu May 18, 2006 3:39 am

Jcar Boot / Hatch Release
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Full Jcar Kit
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Boot Latch
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Close up of connection to lock
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Close up of boot latch
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Alarm Module
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2nd wire from the left on the top line (Black with brownish/red dots)
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Inside the Alarm (pulled it apart trying to find why it wasn't working)
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 18, 2006 8:54 am

Have you worked out how to connect the solenoid to the boot latch :?:

Atleast the battery is is nice and close allowing you to test it quickly :P

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Postby Boyracer » Thu May 18, 2006 9:41 am

Okibi wrote:Image

This is the diagram but I can't tell where it is meant to be under the dash.


Dave..I was pulling apart the SE yesterday and noticed that relay...it's on the passenger side,if you pull out the glove box it is right in your face.
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Postby sabretooth » Thu May 18, 2006 5:14 pm

Dave, wire it like this:

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This will stop you blowing the 7.5A fuse - those relays can pull current >10A - that 7.5A rail isn't design for that sort of load.

This assumes that the black + dotted red/brown wire puts out 12v when active. If not, then nothing will happen.

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Postby Okibi » Thu May 18, 2006 5:37 pm

Cheers anyway; its all working already

I just need to clean up the wiring also need to make up a bracket

I'll post photos when i get more time.

Cheers anyway, saves me having to draw up a diagram. :mrgreen:
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Postby sabretooth » Thu May 18, 2006 6:05 pm

I don't suppose you'd mind posting that on my site? You'll get credit of course! It'll be the first NB improvement article on there - everything else is either NA-specific or common to both cars.

If you don't want to do it but still want it on the site I'd be happy to post it using your name.

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Postby Okibi » Thu May 18, 2006 9:39 pm

Let me finish it as an entire article, then i'd be happy to include it on your site.
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