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Which OEM Turbo MX-5 Do You Prefer - SP or SE

Poll ended at Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:40 pm

SE
32
48%
SP
34
52%
 
Total votes: 66

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Garry
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Postby Garry » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:13 am

Side play! :shock:
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Postby CT » Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:45 am

All BPs have oil sprayers but the US lads reckon the SE is a later version block build and not a GTX donk. I haven't got to the end reasoning for that yet. They have confirmed however that some 6sp aftermarket shortshifters from NBs do not fit the SE. So that is interesting in itself. 8)
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Postby PT » Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:47 am

Just a noteworthy mention....

My car has never over-heated, and I've never heard of an SE's turbo coming loose from head, or rusting in the intake pipes...
2001 Mazda MX-5 NB8B- http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=61506

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Postby Garry » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:13 am

My car has never over-heated, and I've never heard of an SE's turbo coming loose from head, or rusting in the intake pipes...


Thats because it doesn't go fast enough :!: :P

Gawd :roll:
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Postby PT » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:58 am

Garry wrote:
My car has never over-heated, and I've never heard of an SE's turbo coming loose from head, or rusting in the intake pipes...


Thats because it doesn't go fast enough :!: :P

Gawd :roll:



Pffft :roll:
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Postby Boyracer » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:05 am

This cow topic has hit 7 pages...nice work all...

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Postby StanTheMan » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:47 am

This COW is getting milked big time boyracer. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby ASE05 » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:51 pm

24-SE 25-SP

I'm no: 24 for the SE and we love our lil' baby! Only reason we didn't get an SP was there weren't really any available that were in perfect condition when we were lookin'(and I wanted a new car).

With some upgrades to the breathing/cooling n 'puter it's up to 150rwkw @ 10psi on Chiptorques dyno :mrgreen: More than enough power for us........till we learn how to use it properly!
Sing that song, puff all night long.......

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Postby PT » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:18 pm

You have to take me for a run!
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Postby jolt » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:29 pm

CT: some 6sp aftermarket shortshifters from NBs do not fit the SE

There's actually a few different versions of the six speed gearbox even discounting the 10AE, Heritage and SE.

IL Motorsport in Deutschland only sells the one short shift kit and expects you to machine the bush to suit your particular gearbox (I'm 99% sure that this how David at MX5mania sorted out my IL short shift kit). The same goes for the USA's Simpson Design short shift kit.

However in Japan, home to \"all-parts-included_perfect-fit_bolts-straight-on_mod's\" this would never suffice, so when you order a short shift and metal surround kit from KG Works, you have to specify your VIN so they can send you the exact parts you need for an easy bolt on mod. http://www.kgworks.co.jp/4-c-118.htm

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They even provide the diagram above which shows the differences between the NB8A 5 speed, NB8B series 1 & 2, then the NB8B series 3 (not sure if this is the Roadster turbo/MX5 SE model and/or the last of the naturally aspirated NB8B's).

Perhaps an SE owner could confirm?

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Postby Dave » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:19 pm

Jolt, you have a PM...
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Postby Boags » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:07 pm

Well, some of us can't enter into the world's deepest pocket contest, so how is this for question:

Stock SP vs SE on a track.

NO MODS - Who will win? And that is an easy question to answer isn't it...

Any discussion after that is settled by pumping the most amount of money in.....

Boags

PS all those tired of hearing this debate should stop reading and posting in it :D :roll:
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Postby jules » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:19 pm

Can I just say I LOVE this debate.

Keep it coming.


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Re:

Postby Okibi » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:00 pm

Boags'MX5 wrote:Stock SP vs SE on a track


It's not about the faster car, it's about the "better" car.
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

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Postby kula » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:44 pm

it might be close..
and depedent on which track?

eastern creek SP might have the edge thanks to more powa..
wakefield, SE with LSD and rubber might have the egde..


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