Help - Tein SS

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:38 am

Craig wrote:Being the JDM spec ones is it possible they are the NB and not the NA ones, if that's possible?

it's not possible cos they're the same for NA6, NA8 & NB8.

jap spec instruction:
http://www.tein.co.jp/ti/ss/gbm40.pdf

US spec instruction:
http://www.tein.com/ti/inst/km64u.pdf

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:39 am

bigdog wrote:*offers Phillip $500 for obviously faulty teins to ease his pain and help buy proper NA ones*

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:36 pm

Babalouie wrote:
Juffa wrote:When you tightened the suspension nuts/bolts, after putting on the Teins did you have the suspension under compression? If not, that might explain why it is sitting higher than you expected. Whenever I have removed/replaced/upgraded my suspension components I have used a jack to press up against the lower arm and raise it until the car is almost lifted off the stands. I then tighten everything, lower the jack, fit the wheels, take the car of the stands.
I read on the big forum that you can damage the suspension bushes if you don't tighten everything under compression.

J

That's a good point...when you retighten the bolts the wishbones should be at the normal ride height level as much as poss. But I wouldn't have thought that it would make such a big diff to the ride height...

the more i think about this, it seems this is irrelevant. the top bolts are just there to secure the top and the bottom should be free to move when the suspension compress. how would that effect ride height??

is there anything that needs to be done to the SS before fitment?

Brad · Postby **Brad** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:41 pm

Just tighter the top bolt and lower collars.

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:47 pm

these pics are at original Tein settings:

Front:

Rear:

anything looks abnormal from the pics? would sway bar effects ride height (i don't think so but.....)

thanks

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:48 pm

Brad wrote:Just tighter the top bolt and lower collars.

i checked and they're ok.

apart from taking it to fulcrum, i'm running out of ideas.........

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:57 pm

hang on. what model does you guys have on your Tein sticker?

everyone have NB8C-R GSM40-11531 (F) and GSM41-11531 (R)???

Brad · Postby **Brad** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 pm

They look the same as mine from comparing pics.

Juffa · Postby **Juffa** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:48 pm

Brad wrote:After installing mine only recently, I really can't see how installing them with the car hoisted would make a difference. The only vertical play you'll get is in the ring rubber at the top, about 2mm at the most, which would get compressed when you did up the three top nuts anyway, and the lower runner bush connecting to the lower control arm, which will have almost no play.

What I was referring to was the Mazda suspension bushes, not those of the Teins. There are a number of rubber bushes that make up the front and rear suspension. The bushes are located at the various pivot points of the upper and lower suspension arms. I found that if I tighten mine, as described, the suspension will be within a few mm of the final ride height.

J

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:58 pm

i didn't have to undo any other nuts on the suspension other than the one for the shock on the lower arm....

Juffa · Postby **Juffa** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:01 pm

Philip Lee wrote:i didn't have to undo any other nuts on the suspension other than the one for the shock on the lower arm....

How did you separate the upper and lower arms to remove the old shocks/springs and insert the new one? If your response is that you used something to push them apart, such as a jack. Then I wonder if that is the reason why they have not settled as much as you would normally expect after the amout of Ks and time since the install?

Here is a link to the instructions that I have used in the past.
http://www.miata.net/garage/shocks.html
There are various references to removing nuts/bolts to allow the upper and lower arms to be moved apart to allow enough space to do the replacement.

J

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:09 pm

we pushed down both upper and lower swing arms to clear the shock. it was a bit difficult for the front stock shocks but rears are fine.

Juffa · Postby **Juffa** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:21 pm

Philip Lee wrote:we pushed down both upper and lower swing arms to clear the shock. it was a bit difficult for the front stock shocks but rears are fine.

I suspect that is the answer to your issue. My thinking is that you have forced the upper and lower arms apart, without lossening the relevant nuts/bolts first, and they have not moved back into their normal position.
I would raise the car, loosen the nuts/bolts at the pivot points, compress the suspension and re-tighten every thing. No need to remove anything. Should not take more than 20-30 min per corner.

J

Philip Lee · Postby **Philip Lee** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:24 pm

thanks Juffa, i think i'll give that a go.

anyway reading the instruction u have posted, it seems we did the same thing except the spring/shock compression bit.

we unscrew the sway bar links, unscrew bottom nut, unscrew the top 2 nuts, push the swing arms down to clear the shocks, take the shock out and reverse for fitting.

also my fd's car was fitted the same way but his car is ok. it's only mine that have this problem.