Where Has My Turret Fluid Gone???

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Where Has My Turret Fluid Gone???

Postby sab » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:21 am

The fluid in my gearbox turret seems to vanish after a few weeks, making the gear changes a bit more notchy. :frown:

I like the feel of the quick shift, but keep going back to the standard shifter to compensate for the loss of fluid. Even with the standard shifter, it gets a little annoying.

I have new rubbers/boots and the shaft of both shifters are well sealed, so the fluid isn't escaping via the shifter. 8)

Where does the fluid go? Does it leak into the gearbox? :?

Does anyone know of a fix?

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Postby Babalouie » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:59 am

I have the same issue...I suspect the turret itself is not integral to the gearbox but might be a bolted-on thingy. And if so, maybe the gasket (assuming there is one in the join) has failed and that's how the oil gets out?
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Postby Andrew » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:04 am

I'll have a look when i pull my old box apart :P

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Postby sab » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:25 am

Andrew wrote:I'll have a look when i pull my old box apart :P


Are we done yet??? :mrgreen:
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Postby Steve Tinker » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:09 pm

sab - you can substitute the turret oil with a high moly grease or a grease / oil mix to help retain the "lubricity" of the ball joint and not lose the fluid.

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Postby sab » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:22 pm

Steve Tinker wrote:sab - you can substitute the turret oil with a high moly grease or a grease / oil mix to help retain the "lubricity" of the ball joint and not lose the fluid.


Thanks Steve. I've tried that too, but it tends to thin out after a while and loses its effect. Definitely helps a little though. :)
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Postby Steve Tinker » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:57 pm

Are you using a high moly grease (molibdium disulphide) or a lithium high temp grease which should both retain its viscosity above 100 degrees C. They not too expensive. If you are using normal grease, it will thin out - but you should not be losing it as quickly as you suggest - any tell tale oil marks around the exterior of the turret ?
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Postby Jaron » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:14 pm

I had the same problem... took it to the mechanics turns out to be a faulty slave Cylinder or maybe a leaking master.. :roll:

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Postby sab » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:18 pm

Can't remember which brand I'm using, but it's the high temp moly stuff.

I don't think it so much melts away, but rubs away with the constant movement of the shifter ball.

No tel tale signs around the turret or gearbox either.

My guess is like what Babs said - that a seal or gaskit has worn and is leaking into the box itself.
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Postby jules » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Jaron wrote:I had the same problem... took it to the mechanics turns out to be a faulty slave Cylinder or maybe a leaking master.. :roll:



Huh????????

That's clutch dude, not turret.


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Postby sabretooth » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:11 pm

I guess the low clutch fluid was causing him gear change issues.

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Postby Craig » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:13 pm

I read somewhere that the NA has a sealed turret and that some gasket does need replacing, wheras the NB boxes were integral to the gearbox and used it's oil.
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Postby sabretooth » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:20 pm

Yep, that's the case.

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Postby Adam_NAclubman » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:07 am

Search function works :)

I'm going to the local mazda dealer tomorrow to order a new bally thing at the bottom of the shifter, should I also enquire about a new gasket for the turret, or is it a lot of work getting to where the gasket goes?

Will get some high temp lithium grease while I'm out aswell. Notchy box is giving me the shits

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Postby Babalouie » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:13 am

Adam_NAclubman wrote:Search function works :)

I'm going to the local mazda dealer tomorrow to order a new bally thing at the bottom of the shifter, should I also enquire about a new gasket for the turret, or is it a lot of work getting to where the gasket goes?

Will get some high temp lithium grease while I'm out aswell. Notchy box is giving me the shits


You want an "inner turret boot". That's the one that usually goes, and if you are replacing the bally-thing it's only a few more mins work to replace the boot as well.
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