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Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:17 pm
by speed
Looking for any budget alternative that will be reliable. not chasing much power so thought I'd limit to say 5psi.
Not sure if I'd need bigger injectors? Also heard of others running a stock ecu but i just cant get that thru my brain. Surely I'd need an aftermarket ecu?
Lastly, anyone done a Toyota m12 supercharger in a na6?
Any other options to consider?
Sounds like I'm a mega tight arse but the reality is that I'll revert back to my rx7 after next summer and the mx will be up for sale :(

Thank you thank you!


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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:55 pm
by manga_blue
speed wrote:Sounds like I'm a mega tight arse but the reality is that I'll revert back to my rx7 after next summer and the mx will be up for sale :(
I reckon it'd be a lot easier to sell unmodified than it would be with a cheap-arsed supercharger.

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:13 pm
by speed
Agreed but I just want to have a play creating it.
Apologies, I should have applied more effort with my original post. Intend to edit it when near a pc.



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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:51 am
by Okibi
I've seen a Toyota SC14 adapted to the mount on a power steering bracket.

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:58 am
by Black_Penguin
Would you have photos or further details Okibi? I'm investigating options...

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:30 am
by Okibi
Sorry I don't think so, perhaps if someone in Adelaide knows Roger Trethewey they might have some shots.

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:29 am
by 93_Clubman
Black_Penguin wrote:Would you have photos or further details Okibi? I'm investigating options...

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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:55 am
by Black_Penguin
Thanks for that 93, that gave me some things to think about.

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:14 pm
by speed
Thanks okibi and 93_Clubman.


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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:48 pm
by 93_Clubman
speed wrote:Looking for any budget alternative that will be reliable. not chasing much power so thought I'd limit to say 5psi.
Not sure if I'd need bigger injectors? Also heard of others running a stock ecu but i just cant get that thru my brain. Surely I'd need an aftermarket ecu?


M45 might be worth considering as originally the base kit was sold as a bolt on 5-6PSI SC with minimal upgrades, so using original injectors & ECU. See my following for the original & later JRSC M45 install manuals:

93_Clubman wrote:Here's the JRSC install manual as a basic starting reference:
Later version of manual using Powercard (1/3 down page):
http://www.mossmiata.com/sitegraphics/p ... tions.html

Earlier version of manual using AFPR is here as 25MB file - use green download button near top right next to green view button: http://www.mediafire.com/?jhyuq5nimzn


Also see gslender's posts in following re his adapted M45 setup:
search.php?keywords=supercharge*&terms=all&author=gslender&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:15 pm
by speed
Thanks again 93! Can't wait to get the time to read through it all but retaining injectors and ecu certainly saves some dosh :)


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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:39 pm
by gslender
93_Clubman wrote:Also see gslender's posts in following re his adapted M45 setup:
search.php?keywords=supercharge*&terms=all&author=gslender&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


More specific blog on my adventure on a DIY SC for the NA6.
http://rednels.com/tag/supercharger/

My advice would be to buy a DIY ecu and get that installed and working, then add further mods etc. You will not get a good outcome just slapping on F/I (regardless of type etc) and expect it to work well.

You'll be surprised how much better a tuned exhaust, unrestricted free intake and cam timing can make with an ECU and a good tune. It will completely change how the engine performs!

G

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:15 pm
by speed
G, thanks for the link and the advice. Have some reading to catch up on :)


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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:50 am
by speed
gslender wrote:
93_Clubman wrote:Also see gslender's posts in following re his adapted M45 setup:
search.php?keywords=supercharge*&terms=all&author=gslender&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


More specific blog on my adventure on a DIY SC for the NA6.
http://rednels.com/tag/supercharger/

My advice would be to buy a DIY ecu and get that installed and working, then add further mods etc. You will not get a good outcome just slapping on F/I (regardless of type etc) and expect it to work well.
G


Enjoyed your wet day at the track vid.
Stupid question; how do you get all that wiz bang data to show? Guessing it comes from the ecu? I want I want.
Would a diypnp give me this info, maybe some extra attachment?

After looking at the various chargers available, I like the m45 and also the sc14.

I'm definitely pro hot side :)


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Re: Budget supercharger options???

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:26 am
by gslender
speed wrote:Enjoyed your wet day at the track vid.
Stupid question; how do you get all that wiz bang data to show? Guessing it comes from the ecu? I want I want.
Would a diypnp give me this info, maybe some extra attachment?


Yes, that was done with a DIYPNP and a bluetooth serial and an Android app that records the ecu data along with GPS data... I then just merge the data with video using RaceRender. Not too complex really.

G