Cosworth supercharger for the NC
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Hi Matt, Don´t quite get how the mixture is being controlled without feedback from the O2 sensors. Is your addon ECU actually a piggyback type with the std ECU nowrunning in closed loop?
If so you´ll need the sensors installed in the exhaust before you try running the engine hard or you´ll end up with schrapnel even with the most desirable internals.
If so you´ll need the sensors installed in the exhaust before you try running the engine hard or you´ll end up with schrapnel even with the most desirable internals.
Rob
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Hi Rob
The Adaptronic runs open loop only, ie using maps of throttle position vs RPM vs load vs temperature etc
The factory Mazda ECU runs open loop when under full throttle - and even the XEDE forces the Mazda ECU to go into open loop sooner so that it is more predictable - and using a single map, so I'm not sure what you mean.
Closed loop is normally used only to fine tune at part throttle and cruise, mostly to minimise emissions and maximise economy. At open throttle things are happening too fast for any ECU to keep up.
Perhaps in a few more years we will see more powerful ECUs that can keep the perfect mixture settings at all times by using all the sensors, until that happens all ECUs use lookup tables.
The Adaptronic runs open loop only, ie using maps of throttle position vs RPM vs load vs temperature etc
The factory Mazda ECU runs open loop when under full throttle - and even the XEDE forces the Mazda ECU to go into open loop sooner so that it is more predictable - and using a single map, so I'm not sure what you mean.
Closed loop is normally used only to fine tune at part throttle and cruise, mostly to minimise emissions and maximise economy. At open throttle things are happening too fast for any ECU to keep up.
Perhaps in a few more years we will see more powerful ECUs that can keep the perfect mixture settings at all times by using all the sensors, until that happens all ECUs use lookup tables.


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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Awwwww....me bad....Too many margheritas before posting.
Still I'm home now..back to the grind..
Still I'm home now..back to the grind..
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Had that thing tuned yet Matt?
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Hell Yes!
and I am stoked with the result.
Finally got some new tyres yesterday so I can actually get the power to the ground in every gear now. The old tyres were fairly shagged and first gear was smoke gear...
Looking forward to the MX-5 Club Sprint on Monday...

and I am stoked with the result.
Finally got some new tyres yesterday so I can actually get the power to the ground in every gear now. The old tyres were fairly shagged and first gear was smoke gear...

Looking forward to the MX-5 Club Sprint on Monday...

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Whoa!!!!
That IS impressive....
That IS impressive....
Rob
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
And... I got video
See this thread for details
Is this giving you inspiration to get yours installed?

See this thread for details
Is this giving you inspiration to get yours installed?


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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Inspired I am...though I need to complete our bathroom and front verandah renovation first.
BTW, some discussion here
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=411974
re installing a catch can to reduce oiling of the intercooler.
BTW, some discussion here
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=411974
re installing a catch can to reduce oiling of the intercooler.
Rob
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Hi Zombie, did you change out the standard crankshaft for Cosworth's forged item with a keyway machined for the crankshaft pulley and drive sprocket (rather than the friction joint)?
Cheers,
Danny
Cheers,
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Hi Danny
We did not change the crankshaft - used the forged one as supplied by Mazda ('09 engine)
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We did not change the crankshaft - used the forged one as supplied by Mazda ('09 engine)
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Have you guys seen this? Apparently swallowed a bolt ...
http://www.miphotoboothpics.com/Cars/su ... 7502_AxqJd

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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
I'm on target to have mine installed by Sept-October
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Re: Cosworth supercharger for the NC
Apparently there's another kit fully installed on one of the MX5 Club NC 's over here in SA a month or two ago but am yet to see it out on a club day.
I will eagerly await its meeting
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I will eagerly await its meeting

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