Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby Magpie » Wed May 16, 2018 11:54 am

ManiacLachy wrote:I'll get proper measurements next time I visit Magpie and his laser guided level and weight pads
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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby SKYHI » Wed May 16, 2018 12:12 pm

Ah right :)

Magpie, do have corner weight scales?

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby Magpie » Wed May 16, 2018 1:08 pm

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01/2018 weight, lost 84 kg since 2013.
F/R balance is almost spot on, just need to check the heights.

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby SKYHI » Wed May 16, 2018 2:40 pm

Cool, would like to get my car corner weighted one day.

Sorry for the hi-jack Lachy :)

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby ManiacLachy » Wed May 16, 2018 2:50 pm

If it results in a dodgy day, all is good :mrgreen:

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby Magpie » Wed May 16, 2018 4:41 pm

Dodgy days are by agreement...

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby ManiacLachy » Thu May 17, 2018 7:53 am

I adjusted my rebound settings, made them stiffer, currently about 6F/4R from soft (20 clicks of adjustment available). The ride is firmer but feels better, less jittery, it's good. I'll keep playing with it between drives to and from work to find the sweet spot for my daily drive.

I emailed the guys at Supermiata to ask about their experience with the rubbing, I was more concerned with if this was normal or if something was amis. They replied:
949 Racing - Supermiata wrote:Totally normal. Xida Race are designed to use all available space for bump travel up to the chassis/tub with a 23" tall tire.

We trim the liners or allow them to self clearance. Bumper tabs usually only touch occasionally with steering lock

** 23" is 584mm. My tyre/wheel combo comes to ~586mm according to an online calculator

For me, this is understandable and acceptable. 949/Supermiata are a racing focused company, many of their parts work well on the street but they are designed from a track performance perspective, and if you put race car parts on your street car you can expect some compromises.

On the firmer rebound settings I'm not contacting quite as easily, but this weekend I'll look at trimming a few areas of the liner.

Another option would be to install some shock spacers, I already have a pair from a while ago but would need another pair to complete the set, these would have the shock bottom out a little lower, probably swap some bump travel for rebound travel. But I'm loath to drop the damn sway bar again to get them on!
https://www.flyinmiata.com/shock-spacer.html

GreenMachine, I reckon 800/500 is going to be a bit too rough for a street car. And I think I'll hang on to my 550/350 for a little while longer just in case, sorry.

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby greenMachine » Thu May 17, 2018 9:18 am

No problem, I wasn't counting on them as I had a feeling this might be the outcome.

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby Lokiel » Thu May 17, 2018 9:37 am

ManiacLachy wrote::
For me, this is understandable and acceptable. 949/Supermiata are a racing focused company, many of their parts work well on the street but they are designed from a track performance perspective, and if you put race car parts on your street car you can expect some compromises.
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LOL - wasn't that Dann's line: "That's what happens when you put track parts on a street car!"
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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby ManiacLachy » Thu May 17, 2018 9:47 am

greenMachine wrote:No problem, I wasn't counting on them as I had a feeling this might be the outcome.

:mrgreen:

I don't see me swapping back, it's a lot of work! And I don't think I'll need to. But I'll keep them on the shelf for the time being.

Lokiel wrote:LOL - wasn't that Dann's line: "That's what happens when you put track parts on a street car!"

Yep, all credit to Dann, it's good advice. It's not to say "don't", it's to say "be prepared and aware". I'm not building a Rolls Royce over here!

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby takai » Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm

The saying I am becoming rapidly fond of is "It's an MX5 not a CX5"

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby Roadrunner » Thu May 17, 2018 5:25 pm

TCR wrote:Cool, would like to get my car corner weighted one day.


I would be interested in seeing other SE weights.
Mine was put on the scales when getting coilovers installed, height adjusted and wheel alignment. It was 1148kg total and almost dead spot on corner weights left to right. The guy said that almost never happens straight up and was really happy.
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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby bruce » Thu May 17, 2018 8:27 pm

Why? They'd all weigh the same +/- fuel levels.

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby ManiacLachy » Fri May 18, 2018 8:06 am

bruce wrote:Why? They'd all weigh the same +/- fuel levels.

Not really, considering all the mods we do to them, often different to one another. We're not comparing stock to stock.

Roll bars, coilovers, wheels, exhaust, intercoolers, radiators, seats and more. Some add weight, some reduce weight - it all makes for some decent variation between them. Though none will be super heavy and none will be featherweights.

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Re: Lachstock and Four Turbo Charged Cylinders ['04 NB SE]

Postby bruce » Fri May 18, 2018 6:55 pm

Obvious I am talking stock....


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