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Postby slowpoke » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:43 am

Thanx 93 Clubman for ALL that dope on depowering the steering.
Which edition of SCW ? No, I can't remember but hopefully RussellB still has the magazine and will reply with the answer. Thanx for putting up the photo ! SP

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Postby daffyflyer » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:06 am

Im getting used to the exhaust now i think, its not as loud as I thought from the outside. and it has changed the performance quite a lot, it feels snappy and torquey now, as well as happier to rev out to the limiter, (feels like its peaking around 6800 - 7000)

Also makes angry race car like burbles when backing off, i like it! :twisted:
All in all its made it a bit more of a silly car, and perhaps less nice to commute in, but the noise does make both me and the missus giggle like small girls :mrgreen:
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Postby 93_Clubman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:34 pm

a bit less restrictive intake & exhaust certainly gives them some character :D

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Postby daffyflyer » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:37 pm

93_Clubman wrote:a bit less restrictive intake & exhaust certainly gives them some character :D


Yes! Regardless of how fast it actually is it has character

the butt dyno says its about 110kw now though methinks. (intake/exh/timing)
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Postby 93_Clubman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:49 pm

"110kw" (flywheel)

there's seems to be a bit of difference in rear wheel figures between some NA8s (beyond different dynos), but yours has a fairly fresh engine from memory so you'd at least be maximising it.

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Postby daffyflyer » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:51 pm

Oh, yeah, i always think in flywheel KW :oops: , that would be highly optimistic at the wheels! :mrgreen:

And yes, I think its about 15k-km on the motor since rebuild, but Fuzzlet could confirm that, so it should be fairly close to its 98kw stock

Its always hard to tell how much power you actually have, but it feels much more eager, and climbs hills & overtakes much better so what ever gain it is its a good thing (never met a KW I Didn't like?) :mrgreen:
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Postby Fuzzlet » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:47 pm

yea the engine had around 15k kms on it when I sold the car. With this exhaust + mania intake, it made around 8rwkw more than a stock 1.8.....If the exhaust is a bit too loud for you, a turbo would certainly make it quieter :wink:
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Postby daffyflyer » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:11 pm

Fuzzlet wrote:yea the engine had around 15k kms on it when I sold the car. With this exhaust + mania intake, it made around 8rwkw more than a stock 1.8.....If the exhaust is a bit too loud for you, a turbo would certainly make it quieter :wink:


Now thats what i call a solution! :mrgreen:

Getting used to the noise now though :>
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Postby daffyflyer » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:43 pm

Got bored tonight and plugged in the wolf3d, managed to make it talk to a laptop eventuatly and chucked the default wolf MX5 tune on it.

It will start, but runs like crap and stalls after a few seconds, but hey its a start, doesn't seem to recognize the TPS though, dunno what thats about..

Anyway gonna plug the stock ECU back in again, but was fun to fiddle with :P



P.S Gawd the stock ECU is hard to find!
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Postby Fuzzlet » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:56 pm

yea they dont like running on the initial tune, hence why its a base tune :P Thats weird that the TPS wouldnt work, although I think we fitted a wolf one to the previous engine....
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Postby daffyflyer » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:59 am

Yeah, Id expect it to run pretty rough, but i reckon if it saw the TPS it would not stall.

Seems to see it as either shut or WOT, depending if you invert it, also does the wolf use the MAF, or does it need to use its onboard MAP?

Anyway, Mania will make it work for me :mrgreen:
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Postby daffyflyer » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:39 am

Played with a G-Tech too, claims my '5 has 51kw, and my lancer (dynoed @ 77kw) has 75kw... that sounds like a lie to me, I dont think the mx5 has 51kw atw :shock:
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Postby 93_Clubman » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:40 pm

daffyflyer wrote:also does the wolf use the MAF, or does it need to use its onboard MAP?


not sure if the Wolf has to use it's built-in MAP, but that's what usually is used to delete the MAF - I guess using the MAF in your testing could be causing the TPS problem. As you say MX5 Mania will sort it - should go very nicely with the intake & exhaust.

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Postby Fuzzlet » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:41 pm

Yes the wolf HAS to use its onboard MAP sensor. If you ran a line of vacuum tube to it then it wouldnt of stalled as much lol. It will still need the AFM plugged in, unless you wire in an air temp sensor - talk to mania about it when they tune it for you
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Postby daffyflyer » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:16 pm

Fuzzlet wrote:Yes the wolf HAS to use its onboard MAP sensor. If you ran a line of vacuum tube to it then it wouldnt of stalled as much lol. It will still need the AFM plugged in, unless you wire in an air temp sensor - talk to mania about it when they tune it for you


Thanks Fuzzlet,

Any idea where the prefered spot to tap the vac fitting is? (I would guess anywhere between the throttle and the AFM would do?)

I would like to save a little money (and pride :mrgreen:) by installing the ECU and vac fittings etc. myself.


Other little mod, part of my Wun-ish obsession with insulating the intake air from heat soak, is wrapping my entire CAI and intake piping in this funky insulation tape, will show photos soon, its very blingy/ghetto/nasa, and stops it from pinging after sitting in traffic on 44C days!
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