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Postby MountainRunner » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:14 pm

Your right, the idea of the audio and visual alarms is so you don't need to look at the screen while everything is ok. But when something does go wrong and the alarms trigger, your going to want to know what is going on, so thats when your gooing to need to look at the screen. If your on the race track, being able to glance left and see the display without taking your eyes off the road is the safest way.

Imagine you get an alarm and have to look down at the center console to see the screen, first your eyes locate the unit, then refocus to read the display, then your brain interprets the info all while your freaking out that you have an alarm.

The ideal is a glance left, you read the display and press the alarm acknowledge button to silience the buzzer and turn off the light and then deal with the problem.

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Postby Blue94t » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:51 pm

Sorry for the hijack Mokesta but these EM2 Pro units interest me, however I too prefer the single din approach.
Surely if an alarm is going off, and you know your preset alarm limits well, you would no longer be pushing at race pace. I would expect in most cases as soon as the alarm signals you would be off the racing line and slowing giving you plenty of time to deal with your low oil pressure/high coolant or oil temp/other fault. Even with the large screen to the left it still takes a lot of concentration to read the information displayed, even the dash can be hard to read when you are pushing hard on the track. I love the big warning lights and look forward to seeing how Mokesta integrates them in to the dash. I reckon they could end up looking like Mickey Mouse ears if you stick them on the top of the gauge binnacle :)
Like Mokesta's my car is a street car that will see a lot of track time when it is finished but I would rather not have a large display tacked on to the top of my dash/heater tombstone. I personally prefer a more integrated look.

Back on topic, Love what you are doing with your car, should be great fun on the street and track when it is finished.

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Postby MountainRunner » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:11 am

Mickey Mouse ears, lol. That's how they look tucked under the lip/rim of my dash. It will be interesting to see how Mokesta integrates them into his interior. With every second car having a GPS stuck to the windscreen / dash having a black box mounted centre does not look out of place anymore.

It will be good to see the car finished and out on the track!!

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Postby Blue94t » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:27 am

Mountain Runner,
I understand your point about the GPS but I would not put one of them in my MX5. I won't even put one in my 4wd.
I really don't like things tacked on to the interior of my cars, I guess I prefer the simple, functional, uncluttered look.
I can compromise with the warning lights as they may save my engine but the shift light I would trial fit and then decide if I used it enough to warrant leaving it mounted permanently. Even the warning lights would probably end up being scaled down and incorporated more discretely.
I am guessing you are the manufacturer, any chance of a single din unit for us fussy types.
Sorry again for the hijack Mokesta

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Postby MountainRunner » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:44 pm

I haven't really thought about it to date. I would have to find a suitable enclosure and redo the circuit board layouts. I don't really have it on the plans right now. I am currently dotting the i's and crossing the t's with the new EM PRO II as far as manuals etc goes. Plus I am releasing a RaceLogger that can stand alone or integrate with the EM PRO II. Mokesta also has one of these.

I am really keen to see the full install in his car and then at the track. We will be spending this year developing the data analysis software for race use. Being able to feed the user input back into the software should mean we come up with a system thats functional and useable by racers at our level.

(also sorry for the thread hijak Mokesta)

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Postby Mokesta » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:31 pm

It's all good guys!.

I am booked into the dyno this Friday with Danny. We're going convoy up to Toowoomba. I can't wait to get the car tuned.

Once it's tuned and I know the MS is working properly, I'll be all over installing the EM and the Race Logger. I really want to set up some potentiometers to measure the rotation of the suspension arms. I'd love to know what the suspension is doing on the track. Also, I want the GPS and 3-axis accelerometer. Track days last 4 hours, the time I can nerd-out analysing how badly I drive could be many more times that!

I have to say though that wiring in the footwell isn't that high on my list of fun things to do on a week night!

With the SC on and some more driving skill (can't buy that unfortunately) I may be fast enough for the slowest group at Time Attack track days.

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Postby Blue94t » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:15 am

Mountain Runner
you have a pm.

Keep us filled in on the results Mokesta

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Postby Mokesta » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:07 am

OK Back on topic.

I spent Friday at T.A.S. in Cold-wet-and-foggy Toowoomba with Danny.

The guys welded a bung in my exhaust for their O2 sensor so they didn't have to take out mine.
Then they replaced my plugs with a set one step cooler. Never saw my other plugs again.
Then they got the car on the dyno. A fresh install of the MegaTune software onto their laptop and they were away.

Not knowing us and citing insurance issues, we were kept well away from the car while it was tuned. I found this a real bummer because 1/2 the point of the MegaSquirt is that I want to be able to play with it myself. Not being alowed near the car while it was being tuned meant I haven't learnt a thing about tuning it.
I would have happily paid for an extra hour of dyno time if the bloke was happy to talk me through the process. :cry:

The other annoying thing about being kept in the waiting room was that I wanted to make sure they guys sorted out the little things like idle control, hot start etc. I wanted to know how well my LC-1 O2 sensor correlated with their dyno's O2 sensor. Also, I wanted to set the sensitivity of my knock sensor. Well the car doesn't idle well hot, hunts a bit, doesn't idle at all with the AC on. They just turned off the knock sensor input into the ECU rather than let me show them how to adjust the sensitivity in the KnockSense MS.

The result is that I am very happy with the power tune, cruise tune and all the stuff when the car is going, I am quite disapointed about the rest. I know they have insurance issues, but I have just about every OH&S induction you can get in Qld and it can't be a surprise to them that some people want to learn to do it themselves.

Anyway, enough of the whinging...

Here's the power result. Stock kit, 76mm nose pulley, dodgy convoluted intake hose, not corrected for altitude, tyre pressure about 28 psi.

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These numbers put it 10% down on Danny's car. Primarily due to the size of the charge nose pulley and maybe a bit due to his kit having the newer charger exit pipe and engine being a '96 where mine is a '93.

It was a real challenge to drive in stop-start traffic in the rain. The torque and old tyres making it want to spin wheels at 2,500 rpm.

My very next mod is going to be a smaller charger nose pulley!!

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Postby 93_Clubman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:47 pm

Likewise looks & sounds good Mark considering the differences between yours & Danny's kits. Congrats also!

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Postby Big G » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:06 pm

Hi there Mokesta
Didn't realise there was another Walton on the forum 8)
If you decide to get a smaller pulley, let me know and we may be able to combine postage, as I really need one now :mrgreen:
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Postby Mokesta » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:29 pm

There isn't. My surname and my rego number are both wrong on the chart.

I will certainly be buying the smaller nose pulley. I have to sort out the differences in shaft length between mine and Danny's chargers. None of the suppliers appear to mention the difference and I want a pulley that will fit.


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Postby Big G » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:48 pm

okay, I'll go my own way then :D
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Postby Mokesta » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:19 pm

No real progress to report this weekend. I had to work all Saturday :frown:

One item of excitement was I collected my GPS unit. It is a 5Hz Garmin and plugs straight into the Ruzic Engineering Race Logger.

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I can't wait to plot my laps, calculate acceleration, look at lines etc! Geek extreme!

Also my race logger and engine monitor, being Beta test units, need a re-flash so it is a great excuse to head over to Mountainrunner's house to get the full lesson on wiring up sensors, setting up the calibration on the units and setting the alarms.

I was pleased to learn that the re-flash will enable me to configure one of the outputs to drive a fan/water pump controller. It has different on/off points so, when I connect up a W2A intercooler, the fan & pump will turn on at 45 degrees but not turn off again until 35 degrees. That stops fan on/off cycling when near the switch point. Cool eh?

We are selling our house and moving so progress will be slow for a while.

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Postby Mokesta » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:41 pm

Solved three issues today. The clubby had been overheating so, on Danny's advice I took out the thermostat. At room temp it was stuck wide open. I suspect that sometimes it had been sticking closed. Replaced it with a new 82 degree one and she's all cool 8)

I also tensioned up the supercharger drive belt, which is a real exercise with the stock JR tesnioner! Got rid of the belt slip.

Finally, I replaced the shifter boot.

So the car is faster, cooler and quieter.

Good result.

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Postby corners » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:38 pm

Just read this start to finish!!

Sounds and looks good.
I would be keen to hear what the NPower muffler sounds like, I am considering changing one of mine.

I cant wait to go down the Megasquirt track, should be interesting


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