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Postby orx626 » Tue May 06, 2008 9:58 pm

rwf wrote:good to see a nc like this
great build up love the rx8 wheels on the nc
would look good on my car lol

look forward to seeing more danny



Cheers Rob :D .

I still have progress summaries from Jan '08 & Mar '08 to come...when I get a chance. Didn't get a chance to work on it at all in April...had other projects that needed to be addressed 8) .

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Postby Alex » Tue May 06, 2008 10:59 pm

Caffeine wrote:I'm impressed!

Nice job on the solidworks drawings too! :shock: 8)


takes me back to first year uni
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Postby orx626 » Tue May 06, 2008 11:19 pm

SM wrote:
Caffeine wrote:I'm impressed!

Nice job on the solidworks drawings too! :shock: 8)


takes me back to first year uni


Now I'm feeling old SM! :cry: When I was in first year uni we were using Acad R11 :shock: .

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Postby Caffeine » Mon May 12, 2008 10:12 am

orx626 wrote:Here's some more views of the Eaton M90 solid model....if you look carefully you can see some filleting detail that I just couldn't get to work :( .


Stop it! you're making me drool :D

Here's someone who really knows how to drive solidworks well
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Postby rwf » Fri May 16, 2008 8:09 pm

need to see more danny please
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Postby Hammer » Sat May 17, 2008 12:56 am

It's great having a vision, then have the balls & skills (plus money) to actually do it. Goon for you.

I'm a captive audience. I think I'm not alone when I say, I wait with anticipation for the next installment.

Keep up the awesome work!! Very, Very cool 8)
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Postby rwf » Sat May 17, 2008 6:12 pm

Hammer wrote:I'm a captive audience. I think I'm not alone when I say, I wait with anticipation for the next installment


me too lol :D
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Postby Blue94t » Sun May 18, 2008 12:09 am

Very impressive project. If your other cars are anything to go by this looks like it will be another stunner.
Top attention to detail. Having done a few engine conversions I appreciate how hard it is to make the new motor look like a factory setup. Can't wait to see it with the sc all mounted up.
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Postby PUR157 » Sun May 18, 2008 1:52 pm

Hammer wrote:It's great having a vision, then have the balls & skills (plus money) to actually do it. Goon for you.


Hammer hit the nail on the head... I can only aspire to be like that...
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Postby orx626 » Sun May 18, 2008 7:39 pm

I really appreciate your support and positive feedback guys! :D It's certainly a substantial project (in terms of time and R & D), that will hopefully result in the car I dreamt it would be. :D 8)

In late January I got some spare time to look at fitting an RX-8 differential into the NC rear suspension subframe. After putting a tape measure over both the NC and RX-8 diff 'ear' brackets I found that the RX-8 diff ear bracket mounting centres were indentical to the NC. NC diff ear bracket on right in below photo.

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I also found that the studs in the diff housings also had the same spacing. However, the RX-8 diff housing has an extra bump that prevents the NC diff ear bracket from fitting. Note the narrowed section with ribbing on the RX-8 bracket. Net result.....I purchased an RX-8 diff ear bracket and bolted her in!

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The next step was to look at a suitable solution for reinstating the structural connection between the gearbox extension housing and the nose of differential (better known as the PPF - Power Plant Frame). The NC like its predecessors uses a pressed aluminium section for the PPF (FWIW - NA & NB is a C-section whereas the NC is a Z-section). The RX-8 uses a fabricated steel member not unlike the item used in the FD RX-7. Besides being made of steel, the RX-8 PPF also has some torsional capacity as it is predominantly a closed section. I only needed a quick look at the NC PPF to realise that major rework was necessary to make it fit to both the RX-8 gearbox and diff attachment points. Once again the solution was to use the RX-8 item as this would give me the correct end connections....but it is also a nominal 370mm too long because of the shorter wheelbase of the NC. The next question that needed to be answered was where to remove this extra length. The RX-8 PPF section changes its shape all along its length so the goal was to find two positions along its length that were as close as possible in cross-section. The below photos show the end result. I used a diaphragm plate to assist with reconnecting the two slightly different cross-sections.

Once I fully weld it out, the excess diaphragm material will be removed back to the silhouette of the PPF cross-section.

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In January I also began laying out the supercharger, air to water IC core and inlet manifold header plate to get a feel for the required manifolding and the necessary space.

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Postby Caffeine » Sun May 18, 2008 8:57 pm

Well, you've inspired me!

I'm currently laying out a modified locost clubman chassis in solidworks, based loosely on the drawings in Ron Champion's book [url=http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=build+sports+car]\"Build Your Own Sports Car for as Little as £250 and Race It!\"
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Postby orx626 » Sun May 18, 2008 10:10 pm

Caffeine wrote:Well, you've inspired me!


Glad to be of assistance! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Caffeine wrote:I'm currently laying out a modified locost clubman chassis in solidworks, based loosely on the drawings in Ron Champion's book [url=http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=build+sports+car]"Build Your Own Sports Car for as Little as £250 and Race It!"
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Building a Locost or equivalent is such a fantastic project....I learn't so much about vehicle design and chassis dynamics when I designed and built a Canstel Clubman (circa 1970ish kit). It was such a great experience..go for it Caffeine!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Unlike the Locost or Lotus Super 7 / Caterham's the Canstel uses a backbone chassis a-la Lotus Espirit. Here's some piccies...The build went from 1999 to 2004. You will recognise some familiar components used in the build :wink: .

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As you can see a lot of MX-5 bits were used. 8)

Cheers,
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Postby Hammer » Sun May 18, 2008 10:32 pm

orx626, I take it you like building lifesize cars then? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Postby orx626 » Sun May 18, 2008 10:39 pm

Hammer wrote:orx626, I take it you like building lifesize cars then? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Yep yep yep!!! Although I do like scaled plastic and die-cast Mazda's as well 8) . As most on the forum can tell by now, I'm just a little bit passionate about Mazda's :lol: :mrgreen: .

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Postby Alex » Sun May 18, 2008 10:44 pm

:shock: wow, road registered? (the clubman that is)
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