The Roadster NA Journey Begins

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby corners » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:17 pm

MattR wrote:Just one thing to say.......

Told ya so!!!!!!!!! :D :D



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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Magpie » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:10 pm

Well the car had its wings clipped today, from this
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to this
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Wing will only go on now when the car is on the trailer or for very special occasions. I'm sort of sad, but at least it looks a little less 'pull me over please'. I might see if there is a non-functional low profile wing that has the same spacing as the real one and put that on for 'show'. However I will then have to put up with the 'that wing does nothing' comments or 'why don't you get a real one', but, I will know the truth :)

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Lokiel » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:58 pm

Unfortunately the wing really does scream "pull me over" - at least it still looks good without the wing.

I was always amazed that Charlie managed to avoid getting pulled over every time he drove near a cop car.
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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby sailaholic » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:13 am

Charlie used to take the wing off a lot as well.


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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby MattR » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:33 am

Magpie wrote:
plohl wrote:1157kg is pretty heavy :P

Ouch, somebody had to add it up, however I never will post the car weight without the driver :)
plohl wrote:1With the squirming under braking, have you looked at your shock settings? Might be getting too much weight transfer to the front.

At the moment there is more rebound in the rear so that the weight transfer from front to back is slowed once braking is almost complete. My logic is so that the front does not unload too quick.

Maybe softer spring rates on the front could be tested?


And now it's on its way to being a proper race car, here is step one in the weight reduction........

A couple of photos for inspiration Mark, this is how far you could be going to get weight out :P

Removing all the interior sound deadener
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On it's rotisserie to start the exterior clean up.
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And the Interior before final clean and paint with KBS rust preventative paint in white
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So just a bit of inspiration, or you can show how far you could have gone with the build to get back into the good books...... :lol:

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Magpie » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:53 am

MattR is your car road registered? Well mine still is and while it stays that way the radio, carpet and brake booster remain! The radio should go because it can't really be heard and the antenna is not even hooked up. Any weight saving will be done by the driver :)

After the QR Night Sprints I may reassess the direction of the car, so anything is possible

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby MattR » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:40 am

Come over to the dark side....... :evil:

You know you want to...................

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Magpie » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:29 am

By the way, the cage looks the part, can it be CAMS certified? Also, as much as this hurts, the inside does look good without the carpet!

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby MattR » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:35 am

Mark, the cage was built to be CAMS certified, just have to chase up Dave for the paperwork before I lodge the application for the CAMS logbook when it is a lot more complete.

In those shots the interior has just been sprayed with cheap cold gal paint to keep the surface rust away as it sat for about 2 years. The next step for the prep is to get rid of all the deadener and paint from the underside and wheel wells and then strip the interior of the cold gal paint and recoat using KBS in the white colour both inside and out and the cage. So I will have a few fun weekends annoying the neighbours with grinders and drills fitted with stripping wheels and wire brushes.

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Magpie » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:38 am

Could you sand/soda blast instead of grinding? I may as well learn from your mistakes if I have to go down that path...

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby sailaholic » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:45 am

Cage ='no road rego.

Be absolutely sure about what you want from the car before taking steps past a point of no return.

Personally I'd have wanted to do a full season of competitive Motorsport and loved it before converting a road car I'd put that much effort into (albeit for track type use) to track only.

Also, I found someone who will engineer itbs no problem.


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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby plohl » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:54 am

Magpie wrote:Could you sand/soda blast instead of grinding? I may as well learn from your mistakes if I have to go down that path...


Sand blasting is super messy... I think you spend about double the time cleaning up.
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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby MattR » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:02 am

Magpie wrote:Could you sand/soda blast instead of grinding? I may as well learn from your mistakes if I have to go down that path...


Wire brush will take the paint off super quick as its only a light coat, same for underneath and the wheel wells.

With soda blasting you have to get the shell down to a bare, and I mean bare, shell. Nothing in it nothing attached, and then it has to etch primed pretty much straight away.

With me working at home with the wire wheels and stripping wheels it will be cheaper, less messy and easier in the long run. Will just take some time. The KBS paint I will be using is the Australian version of POR15 so I don't have to worry about the surface rust that will form in the time between cleaning and painting. Though I do plan to do it in sections so the metal is not left unprotected for more than a couple of days.

The only bit of the shell that will be done in "automotive" paint will be the roof, rear quarters and hanging panels.

It will be very white before the sign writing and striping is completed.

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Magpie » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:13 am

sailaholic wrote:Personally I'd have wanted to do a full season of competitive Motorsport and loved it before converting a road car I'd put that much effort into (albeit for track type use) to track only. Tapatalk


That is the plan, I want to make sure that having a track only car is what I REALLY want. I would also have to either keep the Red NA or fix the Fiat X19 up as a daily so yep not a decision I'm going to make quickly.

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Re: The Roadster NA Journey Begins

Postby Magpie » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:51 pm

Changed out the slotted rotors with EBC green on the front and stock pads on the rear for stock rotors (machined) and QFM A1RM pads all round.

This is also part of my next journey which is starting to learn how to do a lot of the little jobs myself and the trigger to give the car a once over before track and checking that everything is still attached and in working order. The other reason was to find out why a part of rear drivers side disc was being 'missed' by the pad.

After the car was jacked up and put on stands the fun begins:

Before
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Clip reference photos
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Since the rotors were being replaced both the calliper bolts were removed. This side was more difficult than the other side as the 14mm bolt turned the slider pin as well. A narrow 17mm spanner can be used to hold it (slider pin) while an impact gun (14mm socket) was used. 14mm came out with no problems!

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caliper removed
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Caliper bracket bolts being removed
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Here is why this job needs to be done, one of the slider pins was jammed and had no grease, it was a pain to get out! I will be ordering some new slider pins on Monday and will install when I change the rotors back.
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Reference photo of slider pins and which hole they came from. After this they were greased with proper brake caliper grease, which by the way ants like the Bendix brand of grease...
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Old pads new pads
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Fronts now done, time for the rear!
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Rear brakes wound out! Covering bolt removed.
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4mm allen key exposed. Turn anti clockwise to wind calipers back, keep an eye on the brake fluid container!
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Hopefully you will not find this! The top one is from mine, the bottom one is from my old NA6 calipers which is the exact same as the one in the NB8B brakes! Lucky for me...
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Cap on lower caliper bolt removed, caliper bolt removed
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Caliper removed
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New rotor installed, slider pins greased and caliper installed. Then the 4mm allen key is turned clockwise until the pads contact the rotors then it is backed out 1/3 of a turn.
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Time to bed the pads in. I'm lucky the dead end road I am on is 1km long so 10 laps at medium/hard braking from 60 to 5. Then let the brakes cool down and then every 500m medium to hard braking from 60 to 5 another 10 times.

Right Rear after 2nd bedding in session, there was a little smoke from this so I need to check it again. Temp is caliper.
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Left Rear
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Right Front
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Left Front
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Feedback is that the brakes have a little more bite, however I have not pushed the brakes yet so I will have to wait till the next track session to give more feedback.


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