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SR20DET transplant

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:32 pm
by bruce
Hi,
Just purchased an NA with an SR20DET and s13 gearbox transplanted. I want the box (electric sender) to talk to the NA speedo (mechanical). The Nissan wiring has been spliced with the NA wiring (thus Nissan in the engine bay, NA wiring inside the cabin).

I could buy a Cable-X and use a modified NA cable.
or
I was thinking maybe an NB cluster but from my reading there is a lot of splicing, and then would be Nissan box send a signal to the NB speedo?
or
Can I extract the NB electric speedo drive from the cluster, but no guarantee of it talking to the Nissan box (would it just require some wires?) Odometer would not work.
or
An aftermarket speedo (no thanks).

How to make the odometer work? (Cable-X may be the solution).

I'm using my phone for a speedo but don't know if that is sufficient for a Roadworthy Certificate?

Give me your solutions! Thanks.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:41 pm
by Okibi
Which one did you buy Bruce (p.s. Congrats!!), any pictures of it?

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:05 am
by 93_Clubman
Congrats Bruce!

Ad for the one recently for sale mentioned that speedo needed sorting, so sounds like that one.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:52 am
by manga_blue
Just thinking ... there are digital speedo options which can be set up independent of whatever you have in the car now. There are dedicated GPS units and apps for iPhone and Android which will do it accurately off GPS receivers. There are also aftermarket digital and analog face gauges that can run off a pulse from the existing gearbox sensor or else from installed sensors on the driveshaft.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:01 pm
by bruce
Thanks guys. Pictures will follow. Yes, I purchased the one advertised recently.
I want to keep the original speedo face, so I don't want to go an aftermarket speedo. I use my phone atm (gps), but I don't think that will pass a Vic roadworthy (?)

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:08 pm
by manga_blue
TwinCam16 on BoostCruising.com.au wrote: Post #2
QUOTE (deanozz @ Jul 23 2010, 07:25 AM) *
hey guys i am jus wondering is there and alternate speedo sensor to fit on the the s13's other than the electronic ones. i want a cable one. will one out of a early ca or rb fit or somthing???

All s13's are electronic.

We did a conversion into a mates AE86 about 6 or so years ago using a CA18 (same box as the SR / CA / R32 RB20) and the stock AE86 speedo drive cable droped straight into the Nissan box.

Might be worth looking into.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:50 pm
by bruce
Yup, I read about that. I have no idea if the speedo would read correctly.
I've been told about something better, a Dakota Digital ECD-100, with easy speed correction. Still gonna have to get a speedo cable modified to suit the MX, as the ECD comes with only a Ford or GM connectors (which look different).

Then to fix the tacho (hopefully only a wiring problem)... !

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:15 am
by beavis
Sounds like you bought the one from the guy in bentleigh. That was a damn cheap car for the price.
It's a shame he sold it, but i guess that is your gain.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:03 am
by 93_Clubman
bruce wrote:...speedo. I use my phone atm (gps), but I don't think that will pass a Vic roadworthy (?)

Vicroads VSI 26 RWC Requirements says:
'Speedometer
Vehicles manufactured from 1 July 1988 must be fitted with a functioning speedometer calibrated in km/h'.

Think the argument would be the functioning one isn't fitted, & the fitted one isn't functioning.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:37 pm
by taminga16
Purchase a wireless bicylce unit, fitted and functioning, it should get you through a RWC.
Greg.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:45 pm
by bruce
Yes, I've thought about all those things (including a bicycle speedo). Methinks I need to order the ECD-100 from the US and then get more confused installing it!
Thank god tachos are optional (DON"T ANYONE TELL ME THEY"RE A ROADWORTH ITEM).

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:12 pm
by Okibi
Which ecu?

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:26 pm
by bruce
Stock Nissan with a Nisstune daughter board (all the Nissan boys use them). Trying to talk to a tuner now.
I'm hoping the tach is just a wiring problem (but then there's a LOT of wiring behind the dash).

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:11 pm
by Okibi
Reading that the early S13 boxes were mechanical and the S15 electronic.

If yours is electronic, ask on some Datto forums (where people put SRs into 510s etc.) I think a mechanical driver from some L Series boxes might work.

Re: SR20DET transplant

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:05 am
by bruce
Now I'm confused. Previous owner reckons electric drive in box, so it must be a later box than I thought (purchase invoice just says SR20DET gbox).
More head scratching.