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HELP!!! NA Pop-up headlight NOT poping up!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:33 am
by Mr Starlet
Hey All

What does it mean when my pop-up headlight won't pop up unless I use the button below the hazard?

Any pointers would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Minh

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:45 am
by kitkat
fuse?

Do the lights turn on?

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:12 am
by Mr Starlet
kitkat wrote:fuse?

Do the lights turn on?


Lights goes on but not poping up, is there a dedicated fuse for poping the light up?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:02 pm
by JBT
Possibilities:

1. Retractable headlight relay is inoperative (but don't ask me where it is :? ); or
2. Wire to it is broken/disconnected.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:18 pm
by kitkat
Click the link to view the wiring diagram for the lights.

Hope you can read electrical diagrams :P

http://test.miata.net.au/headlights.jpg

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:20 pm
by kitkat
can also have a look at...

http://test.miata.net.au/headlights1.jpg

Edit: Mr Starlet... have i geven you a copy of the workshop manual yet? There is a complete trouble shooting process in it. Im going through it now ill post if i find anything.

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:31 pm
by Mr Starlet
kitkat wrote:can also have a look at...

http://test.miata.net.au/headlights1.jpg

Edit: Mr Starlet... have i geven you a copy of the workshop manual yet? There is a complete trouble shooting process in it. Im going through it now ill post if i find anything.


Yep going through the manual now...it's pain looking through that PDF

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:41 pm
by kitkat
its not that bad :P

Use the bookmarks on the left and its a breeze.

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:03 pm
by JBT
Mr Starlet wrote:Yep going through the manual now...it's pain looking through that PDF

Save your energy and find the retractable headlight relay. Hint: it's not in the engine bay where they say it is for the US market cars.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:32 pm
by broady
Also consider the difference if one is popping up and the other isnt, its probably a fault with the motor itself then

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:25 pm
by Mr Starlet
JBT wrote:
Mr Starlet wrote:Yep going through the manual now...it's pain looking through that PDF

Save your energy and find the retractable headlight relay. Hint: it's not in the engine bay where they say it is for the US market cars.


So where would I find this relay? under the driverside where close the fuse box?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:11 pm
by JBT
That's the whole problem...I don't know where it is but I know a couple of places it isn't.

I thiiiinnk it may be up under the dash on the driver's side but not with the other relays that are around the fuse box area.

Wire colours are:
red/green
white/black
black
red/yellow
white/red

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:48 pm
by Russellb
Check that the Tail lights work. The tail light fuse operates the pop up Relay. the button on the dash bypasses the relay ( well on the NA 6 it does)

The hidden relay is under the dash on the drivers side, near the steering column, remove the plastic panel under the column to gain access.

Hope this helps :)

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:50 pm
by JBT
My understanding is that power for the operating side of the retractor relay comes through the \"head\" fuse via the headlight relay. The Motor power then come via the centre console override button.

Check this diagram

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:22 pm
by Russellb
That is not the same wiring diagram I have. I have the Mazda Australia
book . for both the 89 NA and the 95 NA, there is a differance for the 2 models.
will take a Pic of the pages and post them up tomorrow