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Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:51 am
by lucmor444
I am contemplating de powering my power steering on my NA8. If I want to get this rack welded as part of the accepted process is there any good recommendations on who could do this welding in Melbourne?
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:03 pm
by Todd77
What exactly are you welding? And why?
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:11 pm
by lucmor444
For best results on a depowered rack it is my understanding it is recommended to weld the flex joint in pinion shaft.
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:00 pm
by plohl
I have just had someone who can weld do it a few times, iirc it was $20. If you know someone handy with a tig, they could do it in a few minutes.
You only need a few small welds around it to keep it in place, so like 3 or 4 evenly space, less than 5mm long. Any decent welder will have a good idea how to do it.
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:04 pm
by madjak
I did mine with a MIG and it hasn't failed yet. I would probably TIG it next time though just so it's nicer. There isn't massive load on it, you basically have to be able to fail it with your own strength multiplied by the leverage of the wheel. If you depower your rack then it's worth welding it up to stop any extra slop.
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:02 am
by lightyear
It only takes a few minutes to remove the pump and loop the rubber hose. It's not worth doing it "properly ".
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:40 am
by StillIC
Unless you are wanting to remove weight by removing the pump, you can just as easily leave the pump in place. It doesn't increase steering load by letting the fluid circulate through it. To verify this simply jack the front of your car up and feel the steering resistance without the pump running. It feels no different to an unassisted rack (on my car, at least).
Until I read this thread I didn't know that my depowered rack with its unwelded pinion had any slop in it. I can't feel any increase in slop compared to when it was powered, despite looking at the videos showing the play at the joint (with the valving removed). Hmmm.
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:03 pm
by lucmor444
Thx for everyone's response. I may simply first try the looping option. Couple of reasons I am considering this and includes 'better' steering feel, some weight reduction and to give my engine bay a cleaner look (so I would remove the pump etc).
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:44 pm
by GR124
Re: Welding a depowered power steering rack
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:17 am
by lucmor444
Impressive GR124. My problem is that I am a mechanical clutz and expect I would stuff up what you just explained.