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Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:46 pm
by sleeptec
Hi guys. I tried really hard to just do my own research but I really would appreciate some up to date advice.
I have a stock NB8A that I want to lower (and eventually put some work meister cr-01 on) and is purely a daily driver.
When I first thought about changing suspension I was semi decided on YSR dps which are currently just above the $1,000 mark. Then I started looking into other suitable alternatives and came across BC Racing BR series for around the $1,300 mark and was reading how people were pleased with both of these coilovers. Basically after a few days of doing the searches for the relative keywords on here as well as on club roadster, I now can't decide on any of these two coils, or whether to now go for HSD HR, Tein Street Advance, or even Bilstein PSS9.
I'm sure someone here can school me in 5 seconds with what an ideal coilover would be for my situation. I never intend on taking my car to the track or drifting or anything like that, but I like the idea of having the ability to adjust the height and also maintain a level of comfort while having increased handling performance and looks. My level of comfort would be similar to what my current OEM shocks provide.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:53 pm
by sailaholic
Best coil overs is........none. No one can say what is best. Unless you want semi-infinite adjustment of ride height, there is really no point spending money on a fancy body when you could get better valving instead.
Spend the money on a good shock and spring combo.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:12 pm
by narita
oem coilovers for daily
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:19 pm
by shuey
.. or just get some lowered springs with the OEM shocks
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:34 pm
by NitroDann
Except thats unlikely to do anything for performance.
Dann
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:39 pm
by davekmoore
Despite being adjusted way lower than standard the Teins on my SE are more comfortable than OEM setups on my previous NAs and NBs. I have no experience with other coilovers.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:48 pm
by StuwieP
just given the spring rates for the YSRs and BCs, and the damping you'll need to run to avoid looking and feeling like you're on pogo sticks, I doubt what you'll achieve is OEM-ride comfort.
Alternative is to spec custom (lower) rates but then the shocks will probably be over-damping, though I suppose you could just run them on their softest settings. Haven't heard of many people running low spring rates on these ^ coils
I think a lot of people here use king springs and koni shocks but then no height adjustment.
No experience though I'm afraid, so grain of salt for the above from me.
Cheers
Stu
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:55 pm
by PaulF
Konis and Kings are a tried and tested combination. If you're willing to fork out for the PSS9's, they get rave reviews on this forum from everyone who has them and they run softer springs than most aftermarket coilovers so they're probably nicer on the street.
Of course, you need to be aware that what you're asking for is a "no compromise" situation. You want OEM comfort with better-than-OEM performance at a lower-than-OEM height. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you're not going to get it with a set of Yellowspeeds, that's for damn sure.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:58 pm
by NitroDann
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:09 am
by plohl
Mca golds
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Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:35 am
by davekmoore
davekmoore wrote:Despite being adjusted way lower than standard the Teins on my SE are more comfortable than OEM setups on my previous NAs and NBs. I have no experience with other coilovers.
I'm not a suspension tuning expert (or any kind of expert for that matter) but it feels like the comfort (on the "softest" settings) comes from rising rate damping and springing so the first small movements are fairly loose and the more there is movement the more there is resistance and increased damping to avoid the springs over reacting. There, I did say I'm not an expert.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:19 am
by sailaholic
plohl wrote:Mca golds
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Haha, yup. These coil overs will do exactly what your looking for
But be prepared to spend more then a SET of yellow speeds PER CORNER.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:32 am
by slug_dub
plohl wrote:Mca golds
Is that what you have Shane?
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:44 am
by OurCognitiveSurplus
I like my Ohlins.
In my limited experiance this stuff about 'soft settings' is pretty BS. On the 'soft' settings it just feels way under-damped and ends up being more uncomfortable than a 'harder' setting. I think there's a 'right' setting, or at least a 'right zone'. And 1-click soft is not in that zone.
Re: Suggested coilovers for daily driving
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:59 am
by MattR
Any off the shelf solution will be a compromise, some better compromises than others.
Your final choice will also come down to personal preference. For some of my cars I have run spring rates, and had dampers valved to suit, that are approximately double what everyone else with the same car was running at the track. For other cars, OEM was fine for what I wanted for the car and it's use.
In terms of the MX, my NA6 runs BC V series coilovers, the softest damped coilovers they sell, and the cheapest. The spring rates are the same as the BR and Er series, but the damping is a lot softer and I find better matched to the spring rate and the car. My car is a lot softer than most, but it works well at the track, is comfortable on the road and it is set up how I prefer. Others might find that my car is then horrible to drive for them, that it wallows around compared to their car that is what I would consider too hard in the damping if running the same spring rates.
In your case I would be leaning to an OEM equivalent set up as I believe that the MX needs to be softly sprung and the dampers relatively soft to get the best out of what is a relatively light car, especially the earlier models.