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NA6 steering issue?

Postby li21 » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:17 am

Hi all,

Just wanted to ask if this is normal in a NA6 without power steering?
I find sometimes when I and turning and hit the gas or when I go over uneven or wet roads I get too much feedback.. feels like the steering wheel is fighting against me, just a little.

Makes me have to grip the wheel really hard and drive a little more carefully.. especially in the wet.

Is this normal with non power steering NA's? Or is there something wrong with my steering rack? tyres? Wheel alignment?

Thanks:)

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NA6 steering issue?

Postby StanTheMan » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:54 pm

all sounds normal to me. I get sore wrists after driving twisties all day from the steering.

My steering is heavier because of the type of tyre I've chosen & the wheels are heavier than standard. But I also get pretty dam good feedback.


If you need lighter steering. without installing power steering. Look at the following things


Tyre pressure
Type of tyre
Weight of wheel
offset of wheel
wheel allingment.
Is there a LSD fitted?

In Standard form the NA6 steering is fairly light. You may need to come up with a compromise somewhere in between.

I will be changing back to 16" shortly which are lighter than my 15"
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NA6 steering issue?

Postby bruce » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:48 pm

When driving straight ahead at 100km/h, does the wheel vibrate or does it pull to one side? That is a wheel alignment/balance issue.

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NA6 steering issue?

Postby li21 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:25 pm

StanTheMan wrote:all sounds normal to me. I get sore wrists after driving twisties all day from the steering.

My steering is heavier because of the type of tyre I've chosen & the wheels are heavier than standard. But I also get pretty dam good feedback.


If you need lighter steering. without installing power steering. Look at the following things


Tyre pressure
Type of tyre
Weight of wheel
offset of wheel
wheel allingment.
Is there a LSD fitted?

In Standard form the NA6 steering is fairly light. You may need to come up with a compromise somewhere in between.

I will be changing back to 16" shortly which are lighter than my 15"



Thank for that. Just wasnt sure if i was getting too much feedback.

What sort of tyre pressure in PSI should i be aiming for ? 40psi?

Ive got the stock 14" rims and are looking for something with a bit more size.. eg 15" to improve looks and tyres to improve grip yet lighten steering.
Any recommendations for offset , rim models, tyre size etc?

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NA6 steering issue?

Postby Guran » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:34 pm

You're not talking about bump steer are you? I've read that this can be increased if the suspension is lowered without adjusting the steering column. Worth getting a good wheel alignment done too. I've got a stock NA6 and find the steering to be fine.
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Postby StanTheMan » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:04 pm

li21 wrote:
Thank for that. Just wasnt sure if i was getting too much feedback.

What sort of tyre pressure in PSI should i be aiming for ? 40psi?

Ive got the stock 14" rims and are looking for something with a bit more size.. eg 15" to improve looks and tyres to improve grip yet lighten steering.
Any recommendations for offset , rim models, tyre size etc?


It all depends on the tyre.

Sounds like you may have the standard set up. I think they recomend 26psi or 28psi. But I'd be inclined to stick to 32-35psi for a normal perfomance street tyre. I used to run between 26-28 psi on the street with the RT615's but thats a different story.

Sounds like you should also get you allignment checked. Its only going to cost you $80 or so.
Do that first before you buy new wheels & tyres.

But the NB8A rim would be a superb choice.

offset......bit of a cow.
lower offset means you are widening your track width, which can only be good. I'm persoanllly not the one to ask about low offsets. I have dríven on low offsets & just normal driving it seems fine. I'm not sure how it is on the 100%. I refuse to like & recomend low offsets because of legalities & personal taste.
So if someone would be so kind & tell this gent all about low offsets.
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NA6 steering issue?

Postby li21 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:20 pm

StanTheMan wrote:
li21 wrote:
Thank for that. Just wasnt sure if i was getting too much feedback.

What sort of tyre pressure in PSI should i be aiming for ? 40psi?

Ive got the stock 14" rims and are looking for something with a bit more size.. eg 15" to improve looks and tyres to improve grip yet lighten steering.
Any recommendations for offset , rim models, tyre size etc?


It all depends on the tyre.

Sounds like you may have the standard set up. I think they recomend 26psi or 28psi. But I'd be inclined to stick to 32-35psi for a normal perfomance street tyre. I used to run between 26-28 psi on the street with the RT615's but thats a different story.

Sounds like you should also get you allignment checked. Its only going to cost you $80 or so.
Do that first before you buy new wheels & tyres.

But the NB8A rim would be a superb choice.

offset......bit of a cow.
lower offset means you are widening your track width, which can only be good. I'm persoanllly not the one to ask about low offsets. I have dríven on low offsets & just normal driving it seems fine. I'm not sure how it is on the 100%. I refuse to like & recomend low offsets because of legalities & personal taste.
So if someone would be so kind & tell this gent all about low offsets.



If i went with a NB8A factory rim it would have positive offset (+40 or something?) so I'd be fine right?

Also as far as 15" rims go.. is the best size 195/15/50 ?

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NA6 steering issue?

Postby JBT » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:58 pm

NB8A factory rim fits an NA perfectly. Standard tyre size for that rim is 195/50 15 IIRC.
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NA6 steering issue?

Postby li21 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:27 pm

So I fitted a set of 15" NB8A rims today .. changing from my 14" stockies.
Put some Kuhmo KU31s on, filled with Nitrogen and with a proper wheel alignment.

I couldn't believe it, but the steering is ALOT lighter than with the 14" and narrower tyres. Its crazy.. its almost like there's power steering at slow speeds/parking.
At the same time feels like the some of the feedback and feeling connected to the ground is lost.

But at the same time grip is alot better so I can't complain. Tyres were great value.

Stan - Think you were right about the alighment:)

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Postby StanTheMan » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:05 pm

ohhh yea...thats the ticket, did you keep some extra nitrogen to entertain the cops ?

ROFLMHO

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